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Sharpshooternes Mon Jan 05, 2015 05:06pm

Designed play jumping out of bounds.
 
Had an interesting ditch come up on the car ride today and I wasn't sure the ruling. Team A is running a designed play that has the ball handler driving toward the end line jumping out of bounds and making a pass to a player on the wing. Is this legal? Does it matter whether or not the ball is released prior to or after the player crosses the boundary plan. Thanks.

BryanV21 Mon Jan 05, 2015 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 948771)
Had an interesting ditch come up on the car ride today and I wasn't sure the ruling. Team A is running a designed play that has the ball handler driving toward the end line jumping out of bounds and making a pass to a player on the wing. Is this legal? Does it matter whether or not the ball is released prior to or after the player crosses the boundary plan. Thanks.

The only rule I can think of that may prevent such a thing happening states that a player can't leave the court for an unverified reason (for some reason I know the word "unverified" doesn't fit here, but I can't think of another). However, since the player hasn't actually left the court in this case, as he has inbound status until he touches the court out of bounds, then I'd say this is legal.

Kansas Ref Mon Jan 05, 2015 05:21pm

Legal.
As Bryan V said...A1 still has inbounds status.

BillyMac Mon Jan 05, 2015 05:31pm

Everything Is Copacetic ...
 
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Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 948774)
A1 still has inbounds status.

Even if he landed out of bounds, if his momentum took him out of bounds, and if he returned inbounds as soon as possible, without delay, then, in my opinion, everything is legal.

Freddy Mon Jan 05, 2015 05:41pm

The Final Jeopardy Answer Is:
 
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 948772)
...(for some reason I know the word "unverified" doesn't fit here, but I can't think of another)...

9-3-3: "...unauthorized..."

Nevadaref Mon Jan 05, 2015 06:32pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 948777)
9-3-3: "...unauthorized..."

It pays to know your history!
When the NFHS put in rule 9-3-3 it also published the following interpretation:

2007-08 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 5: A1, while being defended, is driving from near the free-throw line extended toward the end line. A1 continues toward the end line and pulls up and goes airborne just before the boundary line with his/her momentum carrying him/her out of bounds. Just as A1 goes airborne, he/she passes off to a teammate across the lane and lands out of bounds. RULING: No violation. A player's momentum, after performing legal actions on the court that results in taking him/her out of bounds is not a violation for leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason. However, if A1 purposely or deceitfully delays returning after legally being out of bounds to gain an advantage, a player technical foul would be assessed. (4-4-3; 9-3-3; 10-3-3)

BryanV21 Mon Jan 05, 2015 06:33pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 948777)
9-3-3: "...unauthorized..."

thank you!

Camron Rust Mon Jan 05, 2015 07:25pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 948771)
Had an interesting ditch come up on the car ride today and I wasn't sure the ruling.

I'd check with your insurance agent....or maybe your lawyer if the ditch came out of nowhere.

BillyMac Mon Jan 05, 2015 07:34pm

Doomed To Repeat It ...
 
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 948782)
It pays to know your history. When the NFHS put in rule 9-3-3 it also published the following interpretation: 2007-08 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

That's why Nevaderef is the King of the Archives. He cited a seven year old interpretation. We are, indeed, fortunate to have him here, on the Forum.


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