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That is NOT a delay warning situation -- it's an immediate T (well, in practice, you tell the coach you need the two players before you assess the T). |
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I'm Not From Missouri, But ...
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Repeatedly say "this is not a time-out" and get the team(s) out the huddle
I've done that. I did it in my last game and got on the coach to get a sub. But it doesn't seem against the rules for a coach to do exactly that, make it an unofficial hurried Timeout. As long as it lasts under 20 seconds. I'd rather see a rule change to outlaw it. I'd like to get rid of the warning horn after five seconds. Maybe- the Coach has 10 seconds to send a sub to the table. Once the sub is there and is beckoned onto the court, play is ready to begin. This would allow the coach basically no time to do a huddle(by the time the players get to the coach, we would be talking about five seconds at the most) and also could lead to delay of game warnings if the Coach tries to do that. |
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FWIW, IL experimented with a "must replace the DQ'd player 'immediately' " rule a few (5-10) years ago. It worked well, imo. |
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If At First You Don't Succeed ...
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A substitute who desires to enter shall report to the scorer, giving his/her number. c. During multiple free throws resulting from personal fouls, substitutions may be made only before the final attempt in the sequence and after the final attempt has been converted. EXCEPTION: When a player is required by rule to be replaced prior to administering the free throw(s), then all other substitutes who have legally reported may also enter the game. This just doesn't do it for me, it's about multiple free throws. What if there are substitutes at the table, who have legally reported, and are kneeling on the X, when a player is disqualified, and there will be no free throws taken (no bonus, etc.)? How can we legally not allow those substitutes to enter before the disqualified player is replaced? Are you sure that you aren't confusing this situation with the situation where a timeout can't be granted until the disqualified player is replaced? I did find a citation for that situation. |
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Let's see a citation for "do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in" for a non free throw shooting situation (no bonus, not a shooting foul, etc.). |
Billy, I've seen instruction for both ways over the years. I really don't know what the current take is or if it matters. One such ruling is in the past interps thread on this site.
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In the order they occur...
I believe the prudent way to handle this is to first replace the disqualified player and then allow for other substitutions like you would at other times. I would not call in other subs for either team before the replacement is identified because it could create confusion. The purpose of td 20 second timer is to specifically deal with replacing the DQ'd player and nothing else happens until that's done.
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SITUATION 1: B1 is injured to the point that bench personnel are beckoned to the court. After B1 has been safely moved to the bench, Team B's head coach is notified that a substitute is required and instructs the timer to begin the 20-second replacement interval. Just as the interval begins, two substitutes from Team A approach the scorer's table to enter the game. RULING: Substitutes from either team may enter the game during this dead-ball period until the officials are ready to put the ball in play. The replacement interval is only for the substitute required for B1. If an eligible substitute does not report for B1 by the end of 20 seconds, a technical foul is assessed directly to the Team B head coach. (3-3-1d; 3-3-5; 10-5-3 Penalty) 2003-04 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS SITUATION 3: A5 is called for a fifth foul. The proper official notifies the head coach and instructs the timer to begin timing the replacement interval. After the 20-second warning horn and before the required substitute for A5 approaches the scorer’s table, (a) B6 and B7 report to the official scorer; (b) A6, who is replacing A1 reports to the official scorer; or (c) A3 requests a time-out. RULING: In (a) and (b), the properly reported substitutes shall be permitted to enter the game. In (c), a time-out shall not be granted while a replacement for A5 is pending. (3-3-1d; 5-8-3b) 2002-03 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS SITUATION 3: A1 fouls out of the game. The Team A coach talks to a substitute and within 15 seconds sends the substitute to the table to report in the game. A Team B player then requests a time-out. RULING: Since a time-out may not be granted until a disqualified player is replaced, the administering official should ask the substitute at the table if he/she is the replacement for A1. If so, the time-out may be granted. If not, the substitute shall remain at the table and the coach must still replace A1 within the specified timeframe before the time-out may be granted. (3-3-1;10-5-1d; 5-8-3b) 2000-01 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 7: A6 and A7 report to the table as substitutes to enter the game. B5 commits his/her fifth personal foul. A4 goes to the free-throw line to shoot two free throws. B6 replaces B5 before A4 shoots the first free throw. A6 and A7 are also beckoned to come into the game. RULING: The official was correct in beckoning A6 and A7 to come with B6. When a player is required by rule to be replaced prior to administering the free throw(s), then all other substitutes who have legally reported may also enter the game. (3-3-ic) Two (red) to one (blue). Do we go with the majority, or the most recent interpretation(s), which, in this case, both point in the same direction? bob jenkins: A actual rule citation (not annual interpretations with conflicting interpretations) would be greatly appreciated. I would really like to know the correct interpretation of "do not admit other subs until the replacement player has been beckoned in". I'm only leaning toward that it's an incorrect interpretation. I would like to be convinced otherwise. |
When In Rome, Or When In The NFHS ???
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None of the above.
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