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mutantducky Sun Dec 28, 2014 02:32am

10 second count
 
not 100% sure.

Get to 7 on the 10 second backcourt count. If a timeout, or ball goes out of bounds, the count is restarted. Is that correct?

AremRed Sun Dec 28, 2014 02:35am

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 947994)
not 100% sure.

Get to 7 on the 10 second backcourt count. If a timeout, or ball goes out of bounds, the count is restarted. Is that correct?

Yessir. I believe the NBA is the only rule set that continues counting the violation, and only in the case of a timeout (a foul would reset the 24). Is this correct APG?

Raymond Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:06am

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 947994)
not 100% sure.

Get to 7 on the 10 second backcourt count. If a timeout, or ball goes out of bounds, the count is restarted. Is that correct?

I cannot believe that in the least 6 years that you have been officiating that you never had to deal with this situation :confused:

La Rikardo Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:33pm

A team may not be in continuous control of a the ball in their backcourt for 10 seconds (9-8) and a team loses team control when the ball becomes dead (4-12-3-c). So if the count is at 7 for A in team control in the backcourt and A calls time-out, A has lost team control and so there is no longer continuous control in the backcourt.

mutantducky Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:56pm

nah, to be honest I had just semi-forgot. I heard my partner tell the coach that answer and I just wanted to check.

pfan1981 Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:19pm

Just as you get to ten in your count, a long pass to the front court. Ten second violation?

BktBallRef Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:25pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 948033)
Just as you get to ten in your count, a long pass to the front court. Ten second violation?

If you reach 10 before the ball is touched in the FC, yes by rule.

JRutledge Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 948004)
I cannot believe that in the least 6 yesrs that you have been officiating that you never had to deal with this situation :confused:

I am with you here. This myth should have been dispelled in the first year.

Peace

pfan1981 Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 948034)
If you reach 10 before the ball is touched in the FC, yes by rule.

Have any of you blown this?

johnny d Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:47pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 948036)
Have any of you blown this?


Yes.

Adam Sun Dec 28, 2014 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 948036)
Have any of you blown this?

I'm with johnny d

bob jenkins Sun Dec 28, 2014 04:10pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 948036)
Have any of you blown this?


By "blown" do you mean "called?" Or do you mean "missed?"

I've called it in HS and college. With the use of the shot clock in college, it's pretty strict. Less so in HS.

JRutledge Sun Dec 28, 2014 04:14pm

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Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 948036)
Have any of you blown this?

Very early in my career I did not realize this was part of the ending of the count. But I learned that in my first year and basically get this rule when it is obvious pretty much every time.

Peace

pfan1981 Sun Dec 28, 2014 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 948043)
By "blown" do you mean "called?" Or do you mean "missed?"

I've called it in HS and college. With the use of the shot clock in college, it's pretty strict. Less so in HS.



Oops, called this. Tape doesn't lie, and of you get to ten before the front court status, tweet.

APG Mon Dec 29, 2014 03:50am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 947996)
Yessir. I believe the NBA is the only rule set that continues counting the violation, and only in the case of a timeout (a foul would reset the 24). Is this correct APG?

NBA has a hard 8 count...I want to say FIBA does also.

Under NBA rules, any foul, or kick/punched ball violation, or DOG warning on the defense where the ball will be thrown in in the backcourt will result in a new 8 count (but not necessarily in a new 24)


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