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Old Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:09pm
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But the legality of the contact is based on whether (a) the screener gave the moving defender time and distance and/or (b) was the screener's foot/leg within the framework of his body. Whether the defender saw the screen coming or not is not an issue in this particular situation. You as well as others feel the screen was okay. My initial reaction was "illegal." Subsequent breaking down of the video by frame hasn't changed my opinion. But this is a great play for discussion for sure!
Yes, but there has to be displacement. There has to be something caused by the screener. Moving a foot a little is not IMO a violation of the rule or te spirit of the rule. And if I have to slow it down to make a determination, then it was not obvious that a rule has been violated. And the screener did nothing that stood out as something clearly illegal.

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Old Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:44pm
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Screen is hard, and someone hits the deck which makes it look bad, but I'm also OK with it. I think that if the exact same action is done and the defender doesn't fall, then this isn't nearly as big an issue.

Only call/mechanic I could do without is the OOB early. As for the PC, you need to sell that call here. I think I would more likely hit my whistle a few times, come off the baseline toward half court and give one strong sell, rather than the multiple, but point is still made.

Also on a separate note, I'm hoping the white HC has a nice sit-down conversation with that little sawed-off assistant who just seemed to escalate things.

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Old Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:52pm
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I would love to know if the assistant coach got any discipline from the school or the league for his behavior after the PC call was made. Being that far out on the court and giving the big wave-off repeatedly is not something any coach should be doing, but especially not an assistant.
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Old Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:59pm
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Yes, but there has to be displacement. There has to be something caused by the screener. Moving a foot a little is not IMO a violation of the rule or te spirit of the rule. And if I have to slow it down to make a determination, then it was not obvious that a rule has been violated. And the screener did nothing that stood out as something clearly illegal.

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I'm not concerned with the width of the legs -- the contact was in the torso and the leg width didn't have a single thing to do with the player running into that screen.
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Old Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:54pm
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I'm not concerned with the width of the legs -- the contact was in the torso and the leg width didn't have a single thing to do with the player running into that screen.
Exactly. The screen could be doing the splits for all I care....if the contact is in the torso.
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