3 Person Mechanics (Video)
 

What is wrong with this picture?

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Peace

The stripes on their shirts are just too wide for me..:D otherwise...ouch

Those are the shirts we are now required to wear in Virginia. Change for the sake of lining someone's pockets.

As for the play, I guarantee they never discussed it, and that it will happen again.

Hard to tell with grainy video, but I don't see a fist in the air or a signal at the spot by the lead. He's out of his primary, but there isn't anything going on in his primary and he had a better look than C. Is this a big no no or something? I don't do 3 man.

"3-Man...When 4 Eyes On-Ball Just Aren't Enough"
 

The introductory title is incorrect. This isn't "Lead Calling Across Paint." The paint ain't even close to the play. This is "Lead Calling in Another Zip Code."

The Lead did have her fist up.

No-no's include:
1) reffing from the middle of the paint
2) putting a whistle on a play that is clearly in someone else's primary
3) calling out of your primary on contact that may not have even been a foul
4) being indecisive as to whether or not to rotate

"Lead fails to recognize perfect opportunity to rotate."

Hmmmmmmmm
 

Disagree. C had the slot on this play.

Secondary Coverage Area (SCA) calls are sometimes necessary, especially as "crew-savers" or when another official has an open look that the primary official doesn't have (cf. "curl plays", where you'd wanna "stay away when they curl away"). However, that condition did not seem to apply in this clip.

It would be interesting to hear the L's justification for two things: Why he didn't rotate to strong side (though even though he didn't, that isn't his play to be looking at once he got across anyway), and why he didn't trust that his C could make the call there if one was warranted.

Lack of training/learning. (I know this for a fact)

Could also be lack of learning in spite of loyal efforts of those responsible to provide quality training.

IF L had rotated, then I think the contact happened in L's primary -- especially with no other post players.

I agree. The rotation should've been initiated as soon as that pass went down to that player. That's where a lot of officials have problems with 3-person. They hesitate and that hesitation puts them "too late" to rotate over.

Of course, analyzing what an official did/did not do based on video is easy. Almost too easy. But a point might be made that this play was outside L's PCA had he rotated but that he did have a competitive matchup at the high post on that side he probably should have been surveilling had he rotated.
Then again, I wouldn't want to be considered one who did not agree with Bob.

It's a combination of no desire to really learn, and no quality training mechanisms in place.

1. Man . . .thats not your call.

2. Thats not a crew saver thats you throwing your C 2 feet from the play staring at it, making a 5 second count . . . under the bus.

3. Man . . . thats not your call.

4. If you are going to call outside your coverage area it needs to be clearly a missed foul. There is more contact on the way to the gatorade cooler then on that play.

5. Man .. .thats not YOUR CALL.

6. You are on the wrong side of the key a looking through at least 2 defenders to see the ball carrier. Your partner is staring at the ball carrier.

7. Man . . . that is NOT YOUR CALL.

8. You should really go and get the Trails opinion on this too since we clearly need more officials staring directly at the ball.

9. Man . . . THAT IS NOT YOUR CALL.

10. BTW you may have made a marginal call in another officials primary coverage.

Appears to be a lot of laziness in this clip...T is slowly walking up the court, L not rotating...not good.

And I am still not convinced there was enough to warrant a foul call in the first place.

Not the best quality video, so I could be wrong, but I don't think the foul was "big" enough that the L should have called it from that far away (and not in her PCA).

I mean, if it were a "whale" then I'd have no problem with the L taking the call should the C have missed it, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

The big problem is the mechanics. If you are going to be looking way over there as the Lead, then why haven't you rotated?

Well, yeah... I agree. I'm just going by what actually happened.

To make ourselves better, we need to recognize the mechanical and coverage errors from these type of videos so that we don't make the same mistakes. Whether it was actually a foul or not is not really the main point.

Those shirts make them look like clowns. The call that was made--totally out of pca by the L--made it even look more like a circus act.
I saw the C positioned 3 feet away and staring straight at the "on ball action" and the C detected no violation.

Since some had already pointed out that the lack of a rotation was a big problem here, I found no need to "pile on". However, I should have voiced my agreement with that point first.

I think Lead is a girl. :p

Moral of this play: Trust the system, trust your partners.

PS: Is that APG at C and BNR at Trail??

Luv them babies!! :eek:

After wearing wide stripes for HS football this season, I wouldn't be bothered by them for basketball either.

Unless there was a 6' 5" bald man in the video, no it wasn't me.

Do not worry who it is. If they want to say who they are, let them do that. I did not post this without and individual on the crew giving some permission or blessing.

Peace

Apparently it's just you and me that noticed this...

I believe my use of the word "her" earlier means I noticed. ;)

If I were the Trail in this video I would have already been at the 28' line when the ball went into the opposite corner, not just now walking into the front court.

But the game is local to my area, and I do not work for that association, if that helps satisfy your curiosity.

No Man's Land ...
 

That's what I spotted first.

Aaaaand the lead finishes the bad sequence by reporting while walking.

Eh, that doesn't bother me a bit.

Don't restrict my autonomy!

Back to mechanics.

I think the C should have stepped down when he saw the double team.

And I also think the C actually called a foul too. Their arm went up and came back down after the whistle. Not sure why they didn't take it when it was clearly their call.

Naw, that's a really high closely guarded count. Slot starts with right arm when player is holding the ball and switches to his left arm when player begins to dribble.

Probably right. As clear as that video is, the C could have been hailing a cab since the L had both primaries covered.

I do not believe the C called anything. I could be wrong, but it appears the C was caught off guard with the call from the L.

Peace