For those of you that have relocated, did you write a letter to the area athletic directors telling them of your officiating experience and general availability? If so, could you make it available to me?

I'm moving to Missouri soon where it's fend for yourself as far as scheduling games.

Thanks!

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Whistleone, to what part of Missouri are you relocating . I am in St. Louis and may be able to help.

CK

I'm moving to Cape Girardeau.

Local Associations over ADs.
 

When I relocated, I called several local Official's Associations and local assignors first. Where I was going the ADs had nothing to do with the assignments. And I have a good friend that moved to Missouri and they had assignors through local associations. So contact the local associations as well, they can tell you what you need to do.

Peace

I wrote an entire article for officiating.com on the subject. dec 3, 2001.

http://basketball.officiating.com/x/article/2207

yes. get a letter but then find out who you have to go through to get the games. Send letters as soon as possible so they can have to to review your resume.

Re: Local Associations over ADs.
 

Jeff, read the post.

You do not live next to Missouri.
 

Tony,

I did read the post. I was just giving him other ideas of what to think about when he moves to this area. And also I know that Missouri does not have the same assigning procedures all over the state. So depending on where he is moving to, he will have assignors to deal with.

BTW, I live in a state where officials cross the boarder all the time (I know them personally) in Missouri. So I think I answered the question the way I wanted to, thank you very much. ;)

Peace

Seems to me that the gentleman has already checked it out and determined that he has to find his own games. No reason to doubt him.

Not so fast........
 

Considering that he did not list the exact area that he relocated to, it really is hard to tell either way. But for the record, Missouri is not the same across the board. Some areas have assignors, many others areas do not (not that far off from Illinois). I have a close friend that lives close to the St. Louis area. According to my friend, he has to deal with an Officiating Board in order to work basketball games. This official was on my very first football crew, I worked basketball and baseball with him as a rookie official (he had more experience than I do in officiating overall). I know him well and we talked extensively about this. He might easily run into a school that he thinks assigns their own games, but they use a board or an assignor to get officials.

Peace

Good grief.
 

Once again, re-read the post.

Tony, I thought you'd retired from this battle. I tried it for a while, but I'm done with it.

Just calling the obvious.

That didn't help me. . .

You are right, Good freakin Greef!!!!!
 

Tony,

Stick to North Carolina and what they do there. You probably have no comprehension on where Cape Girardeau is in relation to anything to in Missouri (I have a very close friend that grew up there). And I can take a wild guess that you have never lived in a place that gave daily Missouri scores, like myself and know officials that <b>actually</b> officate in Missouri. Better yet, I have officiate a game in Missouri myself and have officiated a couple of teams in the State of Illinois that were from Missouri, have you? We know your answer to these questions.

If whistleone had any problem or questions of what I said, I think he can come here and take exception to what I told him. I did not tell him what to do, I gave a suggestion. Stick to Tabacco Road, I will continue to comment on the Mark Twain area, considering that I went to Private school in Missouri and have officiated there. Two things I know you have not done. When you get copies from MMA or can tell me about your experience in the Missouri Districts, then come here and tell me what he and anyone from that area meant. Until that time, stick to Tabacco Road. I do not come here and tell you how wrong you are because I know a few people that officiated in North Carolina that live in the Chicago area do I? When I come here telling you what I know about North Carolina and the officiating there, then you can comment about what you think I know or do not know about officiating in that state. But stick to your region of the plant.

Peace

Re: Good grief.
 

Hee hee! :) This is really classic. Rut, the above comment is relevant because. . .? All Tony pointed out was that you claimed that whistleone never said where he was relocating, when in fact, he said exactly where he was relocating. So instead of saying, "Oops, you got me. I guess I missed that line" you try to say Tony doesn't know anything about Missouri. Classic. Really. That's right out of Rut 101. Beautiful. :D (Can you say ad hominem?)

I guess this is what they call moderator fodder. ;)



[Edited by BktBallRef on Sep 1st, 2003 at 08:55 PM]

I guess this is what they call moderator fodder. [/B][/QUOTE]And then mick would be the "moderator mutha"?

I have many friends Tony, not ones that are on a discussion board.
 

Tony,

Well Tony, I do not know anyone from Gape Girardeau stepping up to the plate to answer his questions. So whatever is said about this topic up to that point is pure speculation. If you feel I did not answer his question the way you think I should have,:rolleyes: get over it. I do not care what area is is moving to, he needs to contact the folks from that area and find out what they have done in the very same situation. Those are the only folks that can really answer his question one way or another. One of the reasons I did not come here asking about "who I should talk to or what I should do," when I moved about 4 years ago. That is what Association Presidents and Athletic Directors are for.

I will remember to consider your fragile feelings on the next post Tony.

"Oops you got me?"
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
[B]Let me get this straight. So I want to make sure that the individual that post does not get the cart before the horse, and I should have said, "Oops, you got me?" So when whistleone might be assuming he is going in one situation, when it might easily be another, I am suppose to respond as "Oops you got me?" I will make sure the next time I check with you before I post. I will make sure I check with two fools that live no where near a State I live, what I should say to say to anyone about what goes on. You guys have a lot to learn about things that go on outside of your jurisdiction.

WOW!!! :eek:

Peace

Re:
 

No, no, Rut. Of course not. All I'm saying is that when you make a completely false comment (for example, and then somebody points out that you just made a completely false comment (for example, by pointing out that the original poster had actually said, then you say, "Oops, you got me". Because I think. . . hold on, let me double check. . . yup, he did get you!! So admit it, have a laugh with the rest of us and move on. Because, believe it or not, you -- GASP!! -- made a mistake.

Well, Rut, I'm not going to stoop to insults. But I will point out that Tony's correction of your post has absolutely nothing to do with what goes on outside of his "jurisdiction" (other than what you typed). The only thing that Tony's post pointed out was that you read whistleone's post too quickly and missed his comment about where exactly "he was relocating to" [sic]. If you can't even acknowledge a small mistake like that, then you have a lot to learn about being a man.

Just my two cents. Have a great holiday.

Become a moderator Chuck.
 

I have a right to assume things, just like Tony and yourself do. And my assumtion, is that he did not talk to all the people he needed to. Why you might ask? He is coming to the very last place you should come to ask about local issues, and that is anywhere on the internet. If you want to find something out about a local official's association or how you get games, you talk to the people that have experience with that. Maybe he had done all that, but it was not clear to me by his post. And it was not clear, because in my opinion, that is something you would have already found out from the locals, not from us who might not even live in Missouri. But instead of that just being what it was, I have the "Master for North Carolina" sticking his beak in a discussion where he lives hundreds miles further away than myself. Just like a discussion on the football board, Tony the Tiger sticking his comments about things that are not in his back yard. I think all the "Association hoes" should tell me how we do things in our backyard. If he wants to control everyone's thoughts and comments, why not become a moderator. You too Chuck, you guys know every freakin things, why not become a moderator and then you can control all the posts that do not fit your philosophy. You can tell everyone what is realistic about when it comes to being a pro official (probably cannot name one in any association you belong currently), you can tell everyone what rules should be highlighted in their area, because the NF says so and you can tell everyone what kind of partners they can decide to work with. You might be happier that way.

Peace

[sarcasm]Thanks for all the help![/sarcasm]

whistleone, sorry but I've never worked under a system where I had to find my own games. Good luck!

Chuck, I guess if things don't happen in our own "backyard," we aren't allowed to discuss them. So much for a national or international discussion board.

Well I have, but you seem to think you know more that I do about that kind of system, which I have direct and personal experience with.

Whistleone, just direct all your questions to Tony. He seems to know more about it than the people that live in the area you are moving to.

Peace