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Ref_in_Alberta Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:10pm

And it begins...
 
Had my first 2 games of our local men's (w)rec(k) league fall/winter season last night.

Game #1 was chippy and I think the guys just wanted to beat the living s#!t out of each other. We kept it under control with a ton of whistles.

Had 1 player earn a T foul from me in the 1Q after being warned about him running his mouth about calls/no calls. He didn't say anything after that.

Same guy after the game decided to tell me and my partner "we need new eyes..." not creative at all and it's been heard before. :rolleyes:

Game 2 was the complete reverse of game 1. Guys just wanted to play ball. No one said a word to us. Think we only called 12 fouls for the whole of game 2. Fun & easy to work.

In the end though I'll put up with the guys in game 1 to have it offset by guys in game 2. I love refereeing this game.

Have a great season everyone, see you on the message boards!!!

ballgame99 Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:25pm

Life is too short to put up with jackwagons in rec league. Give out the T's early and often.

Stat-Man Thu Sep 18, 2014 02:45pm

I had my first game yesterday as well, 7th grade girls. Oddly, for the first week of the season, both teams played well for this level. Even the coaches were even well-behaved; I only fielded one polite question about a 3-second call I made. It must have been a full moon. :D

Witnessed a rather unusual FT strategy late in the game. A1 is shooting the last of two free throws. B4 is in her own front court near the foul line extended. As A1 gathers the ball before releasing it, B4 sprints across half court to be part of the playing action... and crosses the three point line before the ball hits the backboard/rim. She even did this on the substitute throw. [ETA: A1 made the substitute throw, so the violation was ignored.]

That said, it felt good to be back on the court again.

Adam Thu Sep 18, 2014 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 940308)
I had my first game yesterday as well, 7th grade girls. Oddly, for the first week of the season, both teams played well for this level. Even the coaches were even well-behaved; I only fielded one polite question about a 3-second call I made. It must have been a full moon. :D

Witnessed a rather unusual FT strategy late in the game. A1 is shooting the last of two free throws. B4 is in her own front court near the foul line extended. As A1 gathers the ball before releasing it, B4 sprints across half court to be part of the playing action... and crosses the three point line before the ball hits the backboard/rim. She even did this on the substitute throw.

That said, it felt good to be back on the court again.

Did she make the substitute throw?

Stat-Man Thu Sep 18, 2014 03:00pm

Yes, she did.

Kansas Ref Thu Sep 18, 2014 04:15pm

reffin adult men's (or women's) hoop rec leagues
 
1. most of the players are looking to find a "scapegoat" for their diminished playing ability. They will hollar "and - one" when they try for any contested shot --especially layups--which they will frequently miss in the face of slight defensive pressure. But do NOT be dis-armed by this as they are just missing contested shots.
2. Do call fouls frequently to keep it under control
3. Do issue technicals.
4. Maybe it'll be helpful to hold a brief pre-game conference with them prior to the start of game to clarify rules of play.
5. Have fun and continue to enjoy reffing!:)

Lcubed48 Thu Sep 18, 2014 07:31pm

I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

DRJ1960 Thu Sep 18, 2014 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 940323)
I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

Must have been the officials fault.....:D

AremRed Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:23am

Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet. I worked a CPA (yes, accountants) tournament a couple months ago. They complained when they ran into legal defenders and didn't get a call, complained when they were called for obvious fouls. Dudes who played in college complained the most. My partner and I tightened it up, they complained. We loosened it, they complained. Barely worth it, but it was fun to have to deal with adult personalities. One dude lost it, left the gym screaming obscenities after committing an INT and getting a second tech. Fun times!

Guys that play in a regular league not just a one-off tournament seem to have better expectations on legal, illegal, and marginal contact.

grunewar Fri Sep 19, 2014 04:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 940323)
I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJ1960 (Post 940325)
Must have been the officials fault.....:D

And it's obvious, Padgett wasn't his partner!

Hope you are well Mark! :)

grunewar Fri Sep 19, 2014 04:18am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 940340)
Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet.

We have a good many men's Rec Leagues here - A, B, and C class. A being the better players.

If, and I say, if I do take a men's game, I go for the C games, only because the guys appear to be more into it for the exercise, fun, and camaraderie. These are mostly former HS or juco guys, and many of them are "older" players looking to run a bit on the weekend. I've had some enjoyable times.....for the most part.

Oft times, the "A" games consist of overly-competitive, wanna be's, who think they've still got "it." T's, arguments, fights - no thank you, I'll pass. Life's too short.

letemplay Fri Sep 19, 2014 07:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 940319)
1. most of the players are looking to find a "scapegoat" for their diminished playing ability. They will hollar "and - one" when they try for any contested shot --especially layups--which they will frequently miss in the face of slight defensive pressure. But do NOT be dis-armed by this as they are just missing contested shots.
2. Do call fouls frequently to keep it under control
3. Do issue technicals.
4. Maybe it'll be helpful to hold a brief pre-game conference with them prior to the start of game to clarify rules of play.
5. Have fun and continue to enjoy reffing!:)

As for men's rec: I agree with all but #4..good luck clarifying any rules with these guys, you could be in pre-game forever, debating endless commentary before even tipping off. I would limit it to a broad statement of just how much lip you are willing to take before running them. :D

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:04am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 940340)
Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet. I worked a CPA (yes, accountants) tournament a couple months ago.

Didn't you know that "CPA" stands for "Can't Play at All"? :)

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:05am

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 940342)
And it's obvious, Padgett wasn't his partner!

Hope you are well Mark! :)

Thanks. I'm doing OK, but it's pretty definite my career consisting of tossing coaches is over. :(

Lcubed48 Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJ1960 (Post 940325)
Must have been the officials fault.....:D

How'd you know. Of course it was. :D:D


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