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Ref_in_Alberta Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:10pm

And it begins...
 
Had my first 2 games of our local men's (w)rec(k) league fall/winter season last night.

Game #1 was chippy and I think the guys just wanted to beat the living s#!t out of each other. We kept it under control with a ton of whistles.

Had 1 player earn a T foul from me in the 1Q after being warned about him running his mouth about calls/no calls. He didn't say anything after that.

Same guy after the game decided to tell me and my partner "we need new eyes..." not creative at all and it's been heard before. :rolleyes:

Game 2 was the complete reverse of game 1. Guys just wanted to play ball. No one said a word to us. Think we only called 12 fouls for the whole of game 2. Fun & easy to work.

In the end though I'll put up with the guys in game 1 to have it offset by guys in game 2. I love refereeing this game.

Have a great season everyone, see you on the message boards!!!

ballgame99 Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:25pm

Life is too short to put up with jackwagons in rec league. Give out the T's early and often.

Stat-Man Thu Sep 18, 2014 02:45pm

I had my first game yesterday as well, 7th grade girls. Oddly, for the first week of the season, both teams played well for this level. Even the coaches were even well-behaved; I only fielded one polite question about a 3-second call I made. It must have been a full moon. :D

Witnessed a rather unusual FT strategy late in the game. A1 is shooting the last of two free throws. B4 is in her own front court near the foul line extended. As A1 gathers the ball before releasing it, B4 sprints across half court to be part of the playing action... and crosses the three point line before the ball hits the backboard/rim. She even did this on the substitute throw. [ETA: A1 made the substitute throw, so the violation was ignored.]

That said, it felt good to be back on the court again.

Adam Thu Sep 18, 2014 02:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 940308)
I had my first game yesterday as well, 7th grade girls. Oddly, for the first week of the season, both teams played well for this level. Even the coaches were even well-behaved; I only fielded one polite question about a 3-second call I made. It must have been a full moon. :D

Witnessed a rather unusual FT strategy late in the game. A1 is shooting the last of two free throws. B4 is in her own front court near the foul line extended. As A1 gathers the ball before releasing it, B4 sprints across half court to be part of the playing action... and crosses the three point line before the ball hits the backboard/rim. She even did this on the substitute throw.

That said, it felt good to be back on the court again.

Did she make the substitute throw?

Stat-Man Thu Sep 18, 2014 03:00pm

Yes, she did.

Kansas Ref Thu Sep 18, 2014 04:15pm

reffin adult men's (or women's) hoop rec leagues
 
1. most of the players are looking to find a "scapegoat" for their diminished playing ability. They will hollar "and - one" when they try for any contested shot --especially layups--which they will frequently miss in the face of slight defensive pressure. But do NOT be dis-armed by this as they are just missing contested shots.
2. Do call fouls frequently to keep it under control
3. Do issue technicals.
4. Maybe it'll be helpful to hold a brief pre-game conference with them prior to the start of game to clarify rules of play.
5. Have fun and continue to enjoy reffing!:)

Lcubed48 Thu Sep 18, 2014 07:31pm

I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

DRJ1960 Thu Sep 18, 2014 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 940323)
I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

Must have been the officials fault.....:D

AremRed Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:23am

Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet. I worked a CPA (yes, accountants) tournament a couple months ago. They complained when they ran into legal defenders and didn't get a call, complained when they were called for obvious fouls. Dudes who played in college complained the most. My partner and I tightened it up, they complained. We loosened it, they complained. Barely worth it, but it was fun to have to deal with adult personalities. One dude lost it, left the gym screaming obscenities after committing an INT and getting a second tech. Fun times!

Guys that play in a regular league not just a one-off tournament seem to have better expectations on legal, illegal, and marginal contact.

grunewar Fri Sep 19, 2014 04:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 940323)
I had my first game of the year/season - girls Middle School. It went OT. Oh woe was me! :eek::eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJ1960 (Post 940325)
Must have been the officials fault.....:D

And it's obvious, Padgett wasn't his partner!

Hope you are well Mark! :)

grunewar Fri Sep 19, 2014 04:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 940340)
Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet.

We have a good many men's Rec Leagues here - A, B, and C class. A being the better players.

If, and I say, if I do take a men's game, I go for the C games, only because the guys appear to be more into it for the exercise, fun, and camaraderie. These are mostly former HS or juco guys, and many of them are "older" players looking to run a bit on the weekend. I've had some enjoyable times.....for the most part.

Oft times, the "A" games consist of overly-competitive, wanna be's, who think they've still got "it." T's, arguments, fights - no thank you, I'll pass. Life's too short.

letemplay Fri Sep 19, 2014 07:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 940319)
1. most of the players are looking to find a "scapegoat" for their diminished playing ability. They will hollar "and - one" when they try for any contested shot --especially layups--which they will frequently miss in the face of slight defensive pressure. But do NOT be dis-armed by this as they are just missing contested shots.
2. Do call fouls frequently to keep it under control
3. Do issue technicals.
4. Maybe it'll be helpful to hold a brief pre-game conference with them prior to the start of game to clarify rules of play.
5. Have fun and continue to enjoy reffing!:)

As for men's rec: I agree with all but #4..good luck clarifying any rules with these guys, you could be in pre-game forever, debating endless commentary before even tipping off. I would limit it to a broad statement of just how much lip you are willing to take before running them. :D

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 940340)
Yeah I haven't figured out adult rec games yet. I worked a CPA (yes, accountants) tournament a couple months ago.

Didn't you know that "CPA" stands for "Can't Play at All"? :)

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 940342)
And it's obvious, Padgett wasn't his partner!

Hope you are well Mark! :)

Thanks. I'm doing OK, but it's pretty definite my career consisting of tossing coaches is over. :(

Lcubed48 Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJ1960 (Post 940325)
Must have been the officials fault.....:D

How'd you know. Of course it was. :D:D

Adam Fri Sep 19, 2014 09:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 940346)
As for men's rec: I agree with all but #4..good luck clarifying any rules with these guys, you could be in pre-game forever, debating endless commentary before even tipping off. I would limit it to a broad statement of just how much lip you are willing to take before running them. :D

I think he means clarifying NCAA vs NFHS rules.

Raymond Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 940356)
I think he means clarifying NCAA vs NFHS rules.

Wreck league players know the difference?

Adam Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 940363)
Wreck league players know the difference?

Up until this year they knew one major one.
Now it doesn't matter.

grunewar Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:31am

Glad you're ok
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 940351)
Thanks. I'm doing OK, but it's pretty definite my career consisting of tossing coaches is over. :(

Hey, maybe you can work the table. :p

Mark Padgett Fri Sep 19, 2014 01:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 940367)
Hey, maybe you can work the table. :p

As long as I still get to use a whistle. BTW - I was going to say "as long as I still get to check out the hot moms", but with my heart the way it is, the only thing Viagra is good for is to keep me from rolling out of bed. :rolleyes:

blindzebra Fri Sep 19, 2014 05:54pm

Did a mens rec with a team of cops.

One guy kept running his mouth and got a T. After the game he came up to me and asked why...I said what would happen if you pulled me over and I treated you the way you did my partner and I?

Never heard another word from him the rest of the season...no tickets either lol.

Pantherdreams Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:05pm

Started with some fall league last night mens and womens. Mostly high school players trying to get back into game shape and former HS players out for a run. Guys game no one put in work on their defense over the summer or seemed willing to put in work on it during fall. High scoring very few fouls to call, until late when they "weren't given up layups" at crunch time. No complaints. Ladies game was similar from the footwork stand point but lots of holding and grabbing all over. Got some looks but again no comments.

JMUplayer Thu Sep 25, 2014 02:19pm

Lowest level of rec ball here has the following rules....

20 min halves running clock -- pretty standard..

first 17 minutes of each half teams must play zone.
No pressure/press above the 28' volleyball line during these first 17 minutes.

last 3 minutes... anything goes..

It's pretty funny....

Mark Padgett Thu Sep 25, 2014 07:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra (Post 940378)
Did a mens wreck

Corrected your spelling. ;)


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