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Adam Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:20am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 939147)
We meet with coaches before the game to introduce ourselves and shake hands, and there have been plenty of times after games where a coach has shook my hand (although it wasn't because I was sticking around, they just caught me on my way to the locker room). Doing that is not just a "lower level" thing.

Probably regional, but this doesn't happen around here. I'm normally in the locker room before the teams have left the court.

Mark Padgett Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:43am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 939157)
I'm normally in the locker room before the teams have left the court.

Do you at least wait until the final horn? :)

BryanV21 Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 939157)
Probably regional, but this doesn't happen around here. I'm normally in the locker room before the teams have left the court.

Although I'm sure it's happened, I can't think of an example. I'm normally headed to the locker room as soon as the final buzzer goes off, so it probably happened either due to the locker room entrance being close to the benches, or I was by the benches when the game ended.

Adam Tue Aug 19, 2014 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 939159)
Although I'm sure it's happened, I can't think of an example. I'm normally headed to the locker room as soon as the final buzzer goes off, so it probably happened either due to the locker room entrance being close to the benches, or I was by the benches when the game ended.

It may have happened to me once or twice, but not "plenty of times." :D Not enough that I remember it happening at all.

But most of the time, like about 99%, they're still starting their handshake as I'm leaving the court.

Summer ball is different, as my bag is normally behind the table.

JRutledge Tue Aug 19, 2014 06:09pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 939159)
Although I'm sure it's happened, I can't think of an example. I'm normally headed to the locker room as soon as the final buzzer goes off, so it probably happened either due to the locker room entrance being close to the benches, or I was by the benches when the game ended.

I would also never suggest I have never shaken the hand of a coach after the game. But as stated, it is on the way to the locker room and maybe, just maybe we have to go by the benches. Usually that is not the case and I certainly do not seek it. If they stick out their hand and everything is good, I might do this, but it is not something I want to do or try to do. After the game so much wrong can happen if you talk to them.

Peace

Rich1 Tue Aug 19, 2014 07:22pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 939156)
Beginning level coaches should coach, and not worry about trying to win friends and influence officials.

Beginners who may actually get flustered by getting "worked" too much. This won't always go the way the coach wants it to.


Agree 100% with the first statement. In rec leagues and summer ball too many parent/part-time coaches act as if their auditioning for the NBA. They would win more games if they worked their pkayers as hard as they work the refs.

I've seen this backfire on a coach who yelled at a young ref to watch for three seconds and he went down the court and called one against the coach's team. As a newby there was only so much he could concentrate on but once that seed was planted he got it right away!

Rich1 Tue Aug 19, 2014 07:34pm

1, 2, 3, 4, 8, & 9 will have no influence on how I call a game.

5, 6, & 7 will only allow me not to call things because your team is not doing anything wrong. If coaches and players act correctly then they will avoid earning a tech and if your team adjusts to how we are calling a game (compared to other crews or certain game flow) then you will be whistled less because of it. But it has nothing to do with you buttering me up and everything to do with good coaching.

I have only seen a few situations where a ref caused a team to lose a game but even then, as I used to tell my players, if they had taken care of business earlier then that questionable late call wouldn't have mattered.

derwil Sun Aug 24, 2014 09:31am

He missed the most important one!
 
For me, the easiest way to influence my calls is to have a nice hospitality area, with good food and plenty of drinks. The route to a man's heart is through his stomach. You want a call...there better be a BBQ sandwich waiting on me. No wings, no travel. No dressing room water, I might send you to the showers before halftime!

Clearly, the author hasn't experience life on our side of the ball. He doesn't understand what's important to us!

Mark Padgett Sun Aug 24, 2014 09:34am

The way I call a game depends on whether or not either of the coaches bought foul insurance. :p


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