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BryanV21 Mon Jun 16, 2014 07:56pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 936155)
Easy answer. Because we're told not to use more than one syllable. That's what our interpreter, and our two previous interpreters, want. That's how I was trained thirty-three years ago, and that's how cadets are trained today. Those that use colors with more than one syllable risk getting poor peer ratings, which will effect their ranking, and that will impact the level, and number, of games that they are assigned.

OK. Different strokes.

BillyMac Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:05pm

Spice Of Life ...
 
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 936156)
Different strokes.

Agree. Not better. Not worse. Just different.

JRutledge Tue Jun 17, 2014 08:30am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 936150)
I've never heard of anybody getting upset about not being called their specific team color. But if a team is purple (and you can clearly tell if it's purple or blue), then why not just call them "purple"? Nobody is saying you need to get so specific about the shade of purple they're wearing.

Because we are not trying to please them, we are trying to communicate to our partners and those that have to record stuff. I do not care what teams think of what we call them.

Peace

Rob1968 Tue Jun 17, 2014 08:36am

The only verifying that I do, regarding colours, is with my partner(s) and table crew. The kids will figure it out . . .

Adam Tue Jun 17, 2014 09:08am

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 936182)
The only verifying that I do, regarding colours, is with my partner(s) and table crew. The kids will figure it out . . .

I never really do either of these. The table crew knows who is who, and so do my partners. There's nothing wrong with doing it like you do, but I just don't see the point.

Solution in search of a problem, IMO

Raymond Tue Jun 17, 2014 09:17am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 936187)
I never really do either of these. The table crew knows who is who, and so do my partners. There's nothing wrong with doing it like you do, but I just don't see the point.

Solution in search of a problem, IMO

Because of my color-blindness, I'll sometimes ask my crew, or the table, or a player what color a jersey is. I've never had anybody answer anything other than the basic 1 syllable colors. Once had a timer say we should call a team "Teal", but that was b/c it was her favorite color.

Rob1968 Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:12pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 936187)
I never really do either of these. The table crew knows who is who, and so do my partners. There's nothing wrong with doing it like you do, but I just don't see the point.

Solution in search of a problem, IMO

My point is, that if my partner(s) tell me they're going to say "orange", then I'll follow suit, or if they're going to say "purple", then I'll do the same. It's just easier, especially in HS games, with the personnel we get at the table, for all of us to use the same designations.

I've had several off-season games, AAU, in which the Home team was light blue, and the Visitors' colour was dark blue. In most instances, we used the nomenclature of "light" and "dark." I've had a couple of partners who insisted on referring to the light blue as white (?) and the dark as blue.

BryanV21 Tue Jun 17, 2014 01:08pm

For the record, I won't flat-out ask what color they want to be called, but I will ask for "blue" captains or bring up the color somehow. Or, although it's something we do here even though it's not in the rule book, we'll ask for "blue's" speaking captain (since more than one usually come to mid-court for the captain's meeting).

JRutledge Tue Jun 17, 2014 01:15pm

I do not ask or tell them what I will call them. I might say to my partner if we have one of those in-between colors that we might call them "black" or "blue" or "gold" if the color is close. Heck the other team is "white" anymore so it makes it really simple to understand.

Peace

BillyMac Tue Jun 17, 2014 04:11pm

With Apologies To Stan Laurel And Oliver Hardy ...
 
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 936211)
... speaking captain ...

Uh oh. Here's another fine mess you've gotten us into.

johnny d Tue Jun 17, 2014 05:16pm

There are HS guys around here that ask for and will only talk to the speaking captain as well. What a stupid idea. When I am the R, I never ask who the speaking captain is since it means absolutely nothing to me. I will talk to and answer questions for just about any player that speaks to me in a respectful manner, whether they are the speaking captain, a captain, or just a regular player. Further, I have encountered many games were my partner has asked who the speaking captain is, and that player has turned out to be the biggest jackass in the game. Another antiquated and useless practice that just wont seem to go away.

BillyMac Tue Jun 17, 2014 06:32pm

Black Line All The Way Around ...
 
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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 936243)
... ask for ... the speaking captain ...

"What's your number? Are you starting?"

BillyMac Tue Jun 17, 2014 06:34pm

Ask Me About My Belt ...
 
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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 936243)
... speaking captain ... What a stupid idea ... Another antiquated and useless practice that just wont seem to go away.

I agree with you, but, lighten up. This is another one of those "When in Rome" moments.

bainsey Tue Jun 17, 2014 08:56pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 936243)
There are HS guys around here that ask for and will only talk to the speaking captain as well. What a stupid idea. When I am the R, I never ask who the speaking captain is since it means absolutely nothing to me. I will talk to and answer questions for just about any player that speaks to me in a respectful manner....

I won't go rulebook digging right now, but I'm quite certain the rule says that any player (read: checked into the game) may address an official.

AremRed Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:11pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 936254)
I won't go rulebook digging right now, but I'm quite certain the rule says that any player (read: checked into the game) may address an official.

Yeah but the rulebook also says a team is composed of five players, one of whom is the captain. Not sure why anyone would need to know who that one guy is though...


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