(Picking nits) Unless we let them go in the wrong direction the whole game, this couldn't happen . . .:confused:

With all due respect, it is different. Summer AAU ball is a whole different beast than regular season high school ball in many ways. We don't care about most fashion rules (except jewelry). We allow illegal numbers. We have brand new table crews we have to deal with, who are usually inexperienced each game. We have different rulesets. We often work a minimum of 3 games - sometimes as many as 6 or 8 in a day. That certainly has an effect on our mental and physical capacity and how much effort is given. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it is reality. My "best effort" in my first game is far different than my "best effort" in game 6. Partners are randomly assigned - you never know what level of experience you might get. So you may have to reach or handle situations a little different in a heated game with a weaker partner. The situation in the OP - we have no idea what the context was in that game - other that that specific situation. Based on my vast experience working AAU ball, I can see the OP as a valid scenario. Y'all can talk all day about following the letter of the rulebook. It is much more grey in summer ball.

With all due respect - it isn't and I have a little bit of experience as well. The differences you talk about in terms of rules (illegal numbers, etc.) are due to the rules in place for a specific tournament. As far as AAU goes, they normally follow NFHS or NCAA rules. If the people running the tournament tell us to handle certain things - cosmetic or otherwise - a certain way then that's what we do because that's who is paying us, which is no different that the regular season.

Regardless of what our best effort may be in terms of how many games we decide to work the manner in which we handle our in-game business overall shouldn't change. If we change the basic way we work between summer and winter it's no wonder we get complaints about consistency.


Billy, I said live-ball fouls.

In theory, sure. In reality, you handle your business as best you can given the cards you're dealt. In the OP, I think it was handled ok. They got the play right. Isn't that a good thing? I don't know if the process was awesome - we have a one-sided synopsis of the situation from a coach, but the end result is that they got the play right, and I'm ok with that.

This isn't a rule issue, it's a mechanics issue. Right or wrong, mechanics often need to be tweaked in summer games.

Now, quite frankly, I fall in with Rich, Smitty, and Billy on this. Are there time limits on how long one can wait? Sure, but it's fuzzy. Is there a minimum threshold for the severity of the foul before I call it like this? Yes, but it's fuzzy.

Agree.

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Pretend that it's an NBA game.

Thanks, Nevada. (Hopefully, you took my comment as a friendly note. I only mentioned it to try to lighten the conversation a bit. You're one of the members of this board who's insight and comments are always appreciated.)

Get a room.

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