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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 02:09pm
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Paul George concussion

Poor job implementing the league's concussion policy by the Pacers.
Yet another example of pro sports putting the game ahead of the health of the people playing. Not a positive example for all the HS and NCAA (plus younger) athletes out there.
The hypocrisy is clear.


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Indiana Pacers All-Star swingman Paul George was diagnosed with a concussion Wednesday, just hours after he took a hit to the head from Dwyane Wade's knee during Game 2 of the Eastern Conference finals, the team announced.

George now will begin the NBA-mandated protocol for return to action, the Pacers said.
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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 02:50pm
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The only way for the Pacers to know that George had a concussion was if he exhibited signs or symptoms, or TOLD them he was having symptoms. Watching the game, there was no way to look at him and tell anything was wrong, and if he didn't tell anyone he had blurred vision or a headache, then there was no way for them to know.

So to call this situation hypocrisy is ridiculous.
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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 05:09pm
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Agreed. Unless George was forgetting things in the huddle, stumbling, etc. or he said something to the coaching/training staff and no one responded how can the Pacers or the league be accused of hypocrisy? He's a grown-a** man. If he doesn't open his mouth and say "I blacked out" and/or he answers the concussion-related questions properly he can keep playing. It doesn't necessarily follow that someone is concussed once they've taken a blow to the head. He's been diagnosed so now here are the next steps:

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Return-to Participation Decisions:
Once a player is diagnosed with a concussion he is then held out of all activity until he is symptom-free at rest and until he has no appreciable difference from his baseline neurological exam and his baseline score on the computerized cognitive assessment test.
The concussed player may not return to participation until he is asymptomatic at rest and has successfully completed the NBA concussion return-to-participation exertion protocol.

Return-to Participation Protocol:
The return to participation protocol involves several steps of increasing exertion -- from a stationary bike, to jogging, to agility work, to non-contact team drills.
With each step, a player must be symptom free to move to the next step. If a player is not symptom free after a step, he stops until he is symptom free and begins again at the previous step of the protocol (i.e., the last step he passed without any symptoms).
While the final return-to participation decision is to be made by the player’s team physician, the team physician must discuss the return-to-participation process and decision with Dr. Jeffrey Kutcher, the Director of the NBA’s Concussion Program, prior to the player being cleared for full participation in NBA Basketball.
It's important to note that there is no time frame to complete the protocol. Each injury and player is different and recovery time can vary in each case.
If the Pacers don't follow the protocol then you can talk about hypocrisy.
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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 06:05pm
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As I mentioned I was at the game last night. From my seat I could tell something serious had happened. PG was facedown on floor and didn't move for about 20 seconds. I watched the replay and didn't see much contact from Wade, but PG's head did hit the floor. I thought he would go back to the locker room for analysis, but he didn't. I was surprised to see him check back into the game -- I was certain he had a concussion.

According to ESPN George denied dizziness, nausea, and issues with his vision when asked by the Pacers medical staff. He was also active and aware of his surroundings. Without visible symptoms the medical staff had no reason to keep him out.

Now, why he later admitted blacking out during the press conference is a mystery to me and sure doesn't make the staff look good.
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Old Wed May 21, 2014, 09:24pm
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My first thought when I saw the play was that PG had a concussion.
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Old Thu May 22, 2014, 08:55am
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Did anyone see enough to have at him by NFHS rules?
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As I mentioned I was at the game last night. From my seat I could tell something serious had happened. PG was facedown on floor and didn't move for about 20 seconds. I watched the replay and didn't see much contact
By that criteria, Lance Stephenson should have been put into the protocol as well when he flopped and stayed down not moving.
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Old Fri May 23, 2014, 12:48pm
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By that criteria, Lance Stephenson should have been put into the protocol as well when he flopped and stayed down not moving.
Uh, what? I never implied that at all.

What is your point?
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Old Fri May 23, 2014, 02:42pm
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By that criteria, Lance Stephenson should have been put into the protocol as well when he flopped and stayed down not moving.
Sure, in a vacuum, but he didn't watch it from a vacuum.
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