Clippers vs Thunder Game 5 Clips (Video)

[APG]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

9:45 remaking in 1st quarter of clippers/thunder game there was a block called a foul in a similar play to these. Could someone post the video so we can discuss this play?

And the two plays you're going to see a lot today:

OOB Review (plus people trying to claim that Jackson was fouled on the play)


Chris Paul fouling Westbrook on late-game three attempt:

[JetMetFan]

The Ibaka play wasn't a foul. At first viewing I wondered how the L could really see the contact given his position.

The OOB was called correctly based on the NBA's rules.

The CP3 foul was a textbook example of the sort of play the league told officials to watch for in its playoff POE video.

[grunewar]

Atricle with game, rules discussion and referee comments.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/clipper...082955731.html

Oh yeah, and Doc Rivers has some comments too.....

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The Ibaka play wasn't a foul. At first viewing I wondered how the L could really see the contact given his position.

The OOB was called correctly based on the NBA's rules.

The CP3 foul was a textbook example of the sort of play the league told officials to watch for in its playoff POE video.

Agree on all three.

[Raymond]

1. No foul on Ibaka.

2. Barnes fouled Jackson, but I can see how it was missed.

3. Easy foul call on the 3-pointer.


CP3 was fouled on the last play of the game, need that replay. The outside defender (Jackson??), hit CP3 on the right bicep, causing him to fumble the ball.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

3. Easy foul call on the 3-pointer.

What did the defender do wrong?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

What did the defender do wrong?

Hit the shooter on the elbow when the ball was still in the hand.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hit the shooter on the elbow when the ball was still in the hand.

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

This play is a prime example of a text book foul on a jump shooter. CP3 flexed his hand into BW's elbow.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

But the defender was straight up and the shooter created the contact. This is a prime example of the play I was talking about in the other thread.

If the defender goes straight up, there's no way he contacts the shooter's elbow the way he does.

[MathReferee]

I am a completely biased long-time Clippers fan, so my views are tainted.

1) Ibaka play was a foul. Both C and L have the foul call and agree that it seemed like a difficult angle from the L.

2) Apparently the OOB call is correct based on NBA rules. I am not sure it was the contact with the left hand that made the ball go OOB though as I see Jackson's right hand causing it to go OOB, but I have no clue how that rule is worded/written so that may be irrelevant.

3) The foul on the three is tough to swallow. I see a vertical defensive player and contact only occurs due to the offensive player's motion. I could see a foul if Paul was moving into Westbrook at all, but since I see him as vertical, I do not see a foul.

4) Regardless, Paul was fouled on the last play, but neither C, nor L were in a good position to see it. L was the only one that could see, but Ibaka stepped right in front.

Again, completely biased and they never should have been in that position if they could have held on to the ball, not set an illegal screen, and played better transition defense at the end.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MathReferee

I am a completely biased long-time Clippers fan, so my views are tainted.
...
3) The foul on the three is tough to swallow. I see a vertical defensive player and contact only occurs due to the offensive player's motion. I could see a foul if Paul was moving into Westbrook at all, but since I see him as vertical, I do not see a foul.
....

#3 is a text book foul on a jump shooter, and the kinda of pickup by an official that will get you positive feedback in camp.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This play is a prime example of a text book foul on a jump shooter. CP3 flexed his hand into BW's elbow.

The defender went straight up and had his arms straight up, which is what I saw last night. On a further viewing of the slow motion above, I see a little wrist flick on the elbow that I didn't see before. I believe I was wrong and that it was a good call.

[JRutledge]

Play #1: Foul. Not vertical defender makes contact to make a block.

Play #2: Not a foul, contact with the hand while on the ball. Maybe NBA rules are differnet, but this is not a foul at the NF and NCAA level.

Play #3: Paul was not vertical and taps elbow. And it is clear this was a foul by how badly the result of the shot. Westbrook basically air balled the shot.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Play #1: Foul. Not vertical defender makes contact to make a block.

Play #2: Not a foul, contact with the hand while on the ball. Maybe NBA rules are different, but this is not a foul at the NF and NCAA level.

Play #3: Paul was not vertical and taps elbow. And it is clear this was a foul by how badly the result of the shot. Westbrook basically air balled the shot.

Peace

Agree on #1 and #3.

#2, it looks like a foul to me, but it was close. I don't think he contacted the part of the hand that was touching the ball. Looked like he got a lot more of the wrist than the hand that was on the ball.