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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:48pm
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Because - according to reports - one of the officials had already asked/directed them to correct the error repeatedly. At that point, stop being polite and tell them to fix it and fix it right now - which is what Crawford did.
He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:21pm
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
And if teams think the foul situation is different, then what? What if a foul took place with a team thinking they were not in the bonus?

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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:48pm
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And if teams think the foul situation is different, then what? What if a foul took place with a team thinking they were not in the bonus?
What if the scoreboard is wrong about the score and a team thinks it is behind when the game is actually tied and commits a foul?
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Old Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:54pm
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What if the scoreboard is wrong about the score and a team thinks it is behind when the game is actually tied and commits a foul?
That would be a protest in the making...that would have a high chance of being upheld.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 12:11am
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That would be a protest in the making...that would have a high chance of being upheld.
Is it wrong that I am now rooting for a protest?
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 01:57am
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
Wow...just...wow.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 07:01am
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.
What if Memphis wanted to run a quick throw-in and rush the ball up the court after the made free throw to catch OKC off-guard on defense? So it's alright to interrupt that opportunity?

All calling the ball back from the FT shooter does is make him start his routine over again, a routine he's done thousands of times in his career. This "icing" whining is so freaking funny.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 10:36am
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What if Memphis wanted to run a quick throw-in and rush the ball up the court after the made free throw to catch OKC off-guard on defense? So it's alright to interrupt that opportunity?

All calling the ball back from the FT shooter does is make him start his routine over again, a routine he's done thousands of times in his career. This "icing" whining is so freaking funny.
The issue to me isn't the potential icing. I think that's a weak excuse. They aren't running a quick inbounds play, they are going to call time out and advance it up. To me the issue is Crawfords antics.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 07:21am
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He should have, and could have waited until the free throw was over, especially considering Durant already had the ball. Crawford just tries to put on a show and always seems to have to make a scene about everything.

What happens if there's a miss? Are you going to stop play right away to fix the board? What happens if the FT is made but Memphis is leaking a guy down the court hoping to catch OKC off guard and for an easy two...yet you blew your whistle and stopped play because you didn't take care of business before hand? If you stop the play on a made FT, you allow the defense to set up the defense rather than the offense being able to get the ball in quick and push the pace and in doing so, set up a potential mismatch because the defense didn't get back quickly. What if a team carries out a strategy due to the misinformation on the board (commits a foul/plays out a possession)?

So many scenarios that can be affected by not taking care of this right away...and yet people are concerned about the league MVP and excellent FT shooter at 87 percent being "iced."
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 09:51am
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What happens if there's a miss? Are you going to stop play right away to fix the board? What happens if the FT is made but Memphis is leaking a guy down the court hoping to catch OKC off guard and for an easy two...yet you blew your whistle and stopped play because you didn't take care of business before hand? If you stop the play on a made FT, you allow the defense to set up the defense rather than the offense being able to get the ball in quick and push the pace and in doing so, set up a potential mismatch because the defense didn't get back quickly. What if a team carries out a strategy due to the misinformation on the board (commits a foul/plays out a possession)?

So many scenarios that can be affected by not taking care of this right away...and yet people are concerned about the league MVP and excellent FT shooter at 87 percent being "iced."

Yabut...you know that Joey Crawford. Always wanting to make a scene and be the "star" when he is on the court.

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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 10:28am
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What happens if there's a miss? Are you going to stop play right away to fix the board? What happens if the FT is made but Memphis is leaking a guy down the court hoping to catch OKC off guard and for an easy two...yet you blew your whistle and stopped play because you didn't take care of business before hand? If you stop the play on a made FT, you allow the defense to set up the defense rather than the offense being able to get the ball in quick and push the pace and in doing so, set up a potential mismatch because the defense didn't get back quickly. What if a team carries out a strategy due to the misinformation on the board (commits a foul/plays out a possession)?

So many scenarios that can be affected by not taking care of this right away...and yet people are concerned about the league MVP and excellent FT shooter at 87 percent being "iced."
I'm not saying Durant got iced. He shoild have been able to make the free throw. He is a 90% shooter from the line. I'm saying the way it was handled and the actions of Crawford could have been different. Not even saying it shouldn't have been fixed then. He didn't have to go to the table and scream loud enough to hear it on tv? Screaming "Listen to me, listen to me". If Durant makes the free throw, Memphis calls a timeout to advance the ball, and it could have been fixed then. If he misses, OKC has to foul anyway, it can be fixed then.

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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 10:40am
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I'm not saying Durant got iced. He shoild have been able to make the free throw. He is a 90% shooter from the line. I'm saying the way it was handled and the actions of Crawford could have been different. Not even saying it shouldn't have been fixed then. He didn't have to go to the table and scream loud enough to hear it on tv? Screaming "Listen to me, listen to me". If Durant makes the free throw, Memphis calls a timeout to advance the ball, and it could have been fixed then. If he misses, OKC has to foul anyway, it can be fixed then.
Memphis may have called a timeout...may not have...there was 27.5 seconds left on the clock...time didn't dictate that they would normally call one. In the same light, OKC also didn't have to foul on a miss. Force a shot clock violation and they have 3.5 seconds on the clock. Force a miss and secure the rebound could mean a chance to call timeout, advance...and have time for a good shot. Point is, you can't assume what a team is going to do in the future. You have to fix issues as presented in front of you when present.

And it's already been indicated that the table is a known issue even before the game, and didn't heed the direction of the officials via normal communication.
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 01:26pm
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Memphis may have called a timeout...may not have...there was 27.5 seconds left on the clock...time didn't dictate that they would normally call one. In the same light, OKC also didn't have to foul on a miss. Force a shot clock violation and they have 3.5 seconds on the clock. Force a miss and secure the rebound could mean a chance to call timeout, advance...and have time for a good shot. Point is, you can't assume what a team is going to do in the future. You have to fix issues as presented in front of you when present.

And it's already been indicated that the table is a known issue even before the game, and didn't heed the direction of the officials via normal communication.
I thought I had heard that the NBA uses neutral table officials for the playoffs. Is that possible?
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Old Thu May 01, 2014, 01:52pm
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I still can't figure out why an NBA official standing right next to the table couldn't handle this business. If a guy can't take care of that, why the heck is he working at the professional level?--Let alone a postseason contest.
If the table crew isn't listening to him, he should have been the one to stop the game. He should have sounded his whistle and held up the administration of the FT. At this time other partners could even have come over to the table and done whatever was necessary.
The fault lies with the tableside official not taking care of business and making Crawford feel that he had to come do it for him. Everyone knows that once Joey gets involved civility normally goes out the window.
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