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bob jenkins Tue Oct 07, 2014 09:05am

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Originally Posted by onetime1 (Post 941219)
So if the jumper just grabs the toss instead of tipping to a teammate it is a violation. What happens to the arrow?

See 6.4.1C and E, and the related rules.

JetMetFan Tue Oct 07, 2014 09:21am

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Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 931620)
A1 is the only one to tip the jump ball. The ball touches the playing court and A1 is the first one to obtain player control. Legal or Violation. If it is a violation, then what?

I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.

Raymond Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:04am

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Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 931727)
The strange part after having the discussion with this referee. Showing him the rule and these posts. He still states that the OP is a violation.
They should know by now, NOT to question my rules knowledge.:D

This is why I am choosy about with whom I have rules conversations.

I don't like talking to brick walls.

Raymond Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:06am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 941225)
I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.

I know the rule b/c I kicked it early in my HS career.

AremRed Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:28am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 941225)
I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.

I this in back-to-back AAU games this summer. I called neither of them, the "R" was on point. Also had a stolen tip that day.

I know what you mean about talking to yourself. Whenever I have a weird play it kinda distracts me for the next few minutes. I need to improve my focus on the next play. That's the only one that really matters.

Adam Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:14am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 941225)
I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.

I whistled this dead the first time I saw it, but immediately went with IW since I knew the rule. Coach questioned me on it, but accepted my response that it's legal once it hits the floor.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:56am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 941230)
This is why I am choosy about with whom I have rules conversations.

I don't like talking to brick walls.


People always wonder why I talk to myself. It is the only way I can have an intelligent conversation. :p

MTD, Sr.

dsqrddgd909 Tue Oct 07, 2014 03:08pm

+1 Mark!

BillyMac Tue Oct 07, 2014 05:34pm

No More Double Jeopardy ... ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onetime1 (Post 941219)
What happens to the arrow?

Lose the ball, and win the arrow, but it wasn't always this way, the rule changed about ten years ago. Before that an illegal possession was still considered a possession. I guess the NFHS came to its senses and considered the double jeopardy penalty to be too harsh.

BillyMac Wed Oct 08, 2014 06:24am

Let The Games Begin ...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 941276)
Lose the ball, and win the arrow.

And, if the timekeeper starts the game clock, in error, when the tossed ball is grabbed, then be sure to reset the game clock to 8:00 because, by rule, it was an illegal touch.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7-C: Neither jumper shall: Catch the jump ball.

9-6: A player shall not violate any provision of the jump ball (6-3).

I know that many on the Forum will disagree with that, so, let the games begin.

bob jenkins Wed Oct 08, 2014 07:38am

99.9% of the time, the ball is tipped and then caught.

I've heard of, but never seen, a jumper go up with two hands and grab the ball.


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