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Owenf Wed Apr 09, 2014 08:47pm

Basic Hypothetical Basketball Rule
 
If one were to drive to the lane and attempt a layup, but have his shot blocked (when the shot was blocked, he lost possession but regained possession without the ball touching the ground...then proceeded to finish the layup and score), would that be considered a double-dribble/travel? Thank you.

JRutledge Wed Apr 09, 2014 08:52pm

Welcome to the forum.

Not sure if you are an official or coach or even fan, but you cannot double dribble or travel after taking a shot. For one you cannot double dribble unless you by rule stopped your dribble and dribbled again. You can always recover a try attempt (even if blocked) and do what you did before you took the shot.

I hope that kind of helps.

Peace

Owenf Wed Apr 09, 2014 09:03pm

Thanks
 
Yes, thank you, I have been playing the game for years and have officiated at low levels. The only reason I mentioned the double dribble/travel is that I was accused of committing one/both of those when my layup was blocked, I lost possession, regained possession, and finished the layup. Some know-it-alls who have never played basketball in their lives tried to tell me I double dribbled. Even one of my teammates agreed with them. But truly, they just don't understand the game.

JRutledge Wed Apr 09, 2014 09:06pm

It is not so much about who played the game. I played the game and did not know most of the rules until I officiated. But you cannot have a double dribble without a dribble. That has nothing to do with knowing the game if you do not know the defintions the rules define.

Peace.

BatteryPowered Thu Apr 10, 2014 08:40am

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Originally Posted by Owenf (Post 931207)
Yes, thank you, I have been playing the game for years and have officiated at low levels. The only reason I mentioned the double dribble/travel is that I was accused of committing one/both of those when my layup was blocked, I lost possession, regained possession, and finished the layup. Some know-it-alls who have never played basketball in their lives tried to tell me I double dribbled. Even one of my teammates agreed with them. But truly, they just don't understand the game.

That is a bit snarky for your second post...don't you think. You say you "have officiated at low levels". My snarky response back is; Have you actually read the rule book? Seems to me if you have, you would know you cannot have a double dribble if there was no dribble. You would also know that you can be called for a travel for reasons other than gathering one of your shots that was blocked. Are you absolutely certain you didn't shuffle your feet? Is it possible it looked like you drug your pivot foot. You see, we have no way of knowing everything that happened after the shot was blocked and how long it took you to get off the lay-up. Maybe the official didn't want to bring you shame by calling you for a three second violation because it took you so long to get off the second shot.

It is these know-it-all has been players that think they can officiate just because they know how to dribble and shoot a lay-up that make if frustrating to real officials who work at the craft.

Raymond Thu Apr 10, 2014 08:53am

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Originally Posted by Owenf (Post 931204)
If one were to drive to the lane and attempt a layup, but have his shot blocked (when the shot was blocked, he lost possession but regained possession without the ball touching the ground......

He lost possession as soon as he released the shot; the block has nothing to do with it. Player & team control end when a shot is released. Therefore the player regaining possession has REBOUNDED the ball and may establish a new pivot foot or begin a new dribble.

Rich Thu Apr 10, 2014 08:58am

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Originally Posted by Owenf (Post 931207)
Some know-it-alls who have never played basketball in their lives tried to tell me I double dribbled.

I haven't played basketball in decades, not competitively anyway. This is completely irrelevant to whether you, in fact, violated.

Adam Thu Apr 10, 2014 08:59am

They probably think you can't rebound your own airball.

Nevadaref Thu Apr 10, 2014 04:18pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 931240)
They probably think you can't rebound your own airball.

Which is the case in the NBA.

Coach Bill Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Owenf (Post 931207)
Yes, thank you, I have been playing the game for years and have officiated at low levels. The only reason I mentioned the double dribble/travel is that I was accused of committing one/both of those when my layup was blocked, I lost possession, regained possession, and finished the layup. Some know-it-alls who have never played basketball in their lives tried to tell me I double dribbled. Even one of my teammates agreed with them. But truly, they just don't understand the game.

Sounds like these know-it-alls who've never played were good enough to block your shot. Stuffed it right down on you. :)


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