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bwburke94 Sat Mar 29, 2014 06:38am

(NBA) 0 and 00 on same team
 
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Are 0 and 00 still banned on the same team in the NBA? I know it was banned in 2003, has the rule changed?

Indianaref Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:35am

APG will be around soon to let you know.

Rich Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:39am

No logical reason why this is disallowed in NFHS games, either. We allow 2 and 22, don't we?

ronny mulkey Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:46am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 929678)
No logical reason why this is disallowed in NFHS games, either. We allow 2 and 22, don't we?

Is it not allowed in NFHS?

Adam Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:46am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 929678)
No logical reason why this is disallowed in NFHS games, either. We allow 2 and 22, don't we?

I agree. While 2 and 22 aren't the same actual number, this isn't math class. The distinction on a uniform is just as valid between 0 and 00 as it is between 2 and 22. Not a major issue that needs addressed, though.

Indianaref Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:56am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 929680)
I agree. While 2 and 22 aren't the same actual number, this isn't math class. The distinction on a uniform is just as valid between 0 and 00 as it is between 2 and 22. Not a major issue that needs addressed, though.

I thought I remember reading a long time ago that it had something to do with imputing the numbers in computers, both numbers (0 & 00) together can not be recognized. I could be wrong, hopefully someone will correct us.

AremRed Sat Mar 29, 2014 09:32am

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Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 929682)
I thought I remember reading a long time ago that it had something to do with imputing the numbers in computers, both numbers (0 & 00) together can not be recognized. I could be wrong, hopefully someone will correct us.

Given that we survived Y2K, you would think we could design computers to differentiate between 0 and 00...

JugglingReferee Sat Mar 29, 2014 09:48am

If it is software related, it may be because numbers stored as integers (rather that text), assign 00 to be 0. Hence, 0 and 00 both resolve to 0, which normalization won't allow.

APG Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:44am

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Originally Posted by bwburke94 (Post 929674)
Are 0 and 00 still banned on the same team in the NBA? I know it was banned in 2003, has the rule changed?

Nothing in the rule book against it, though this wouldn't be a concern with NBA referees as league offices knows everyone's number and would have to approve this kind of stuff well before hand.

I also don't think it's every been illegal for 0 and 00 on the same team in the NBA...just rarely seen.

bob jenkins Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:53am

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Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 929679)
Is it not allowed in NFHS?

OF course not.

just another ref Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:37am

This is not recent change in NFHS, is it? Hasn't that always been the rule? If that is the case, it has nothing to do with software.

Adam Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:48am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 929699)
This is not recent change in NFHS, is it? Hasn't that always been the rule? If that is the case, it has nothing to do with software.

Agreed. Software may or may not be an excuse for leaving it the way it is, but I don't see how software could have affected a rule that has been in place since Bill Gates was a kid.

The problem could easily be remedied by attaching names to stats rather than player number (I assume most do it that way anyway). The player number doesn't have to be a numeric field, even if it's a number, thus allowing for 0 and 00.

bob jenkins Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:04pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 929699)
This is not recent change in NFHS, is it? Hasn't that always been the rule? If that is the case, it has nothing to do with software.

It began in 2000 (it was announced in 97-98, to be effective a couple of years later)

Adam Sat Mar 29, 2014 01:26pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 929701)
It began in 2000 (it was announced in 97-98, to be effective a couple of years later)

So it is Y2K's fault.

BillyMac Sat Mar 29, 2014 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 929713)
So it is Y2K's fault.

I just knew that it would cause at least one problem. And to think that many laughed at me. Well, just who's laughing now? Anybody want to buy a secure, underground shelter? It comes with a six month supply of canned food. I'll throw in the can opener for free.


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