Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 929759)

The fact that there's a penalty means that they aren't alowed.

You might as well ask" can a player run with the ball?"

No, it's not allowed.

Well, of course the player can -- but there's a penalty involved.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 929759)

The fact that there's a penalty means that they aren't alowed.

You might as well ask" can a player run with the ball?"

No, it's not allowed.

Well, of course the player can -- but there's a penalty involved.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 929750)

2008-09 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations

SITUATION 2: A team has members with No. 0 and No. 00 listed in the scorebook and it is discovered (a) with 14 minutes on the clock prior to the game, (b) with 8 minutes on the clock prior to the game or (c) after the game starts. RULING: In (a), changes can be made without penalty. In (b), if a number is changed in the scorebook, a team technical is charged. The offended team is awarded two free throws and a throw-in at the division line to begin the game. The arrow is toward the offending team. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred. In (c), after the game starts, there is no infraction if only one of the team members (No. 0 or No. 00) participates. If the second team member wishes to participate, the result is an illegal number when "discovered." The penalty is a direct technical foul on the head coach for an illegal uniform. Two free throws and a division line throw-in for the offended team and loss of coaching box privileges for the offending coach. The second team member (with the illegal uniform number) may participate without further penalty and is NOT required to change his/her number. Another possibility exists after the game starts when one of the team members wants to change his/her number prior to participating. The result is a team technical foul (no loss of coaching box) for changing the scorebook. COMMENT: No team should have both No. 0 and No. 00 on its regular roster. The infraction is likely due to bringing a player up or down a level. Therefore, it is possible the team has access to other legal uniforms to replace a uniform with an illegal number. (3-4-3d; 10-1-2; 10-5-4)

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 929678)

No logical reason why this is disallowed in NFHS games, either. We allow 2 and 22, don't we?

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 929845)

Sidebar: Can players with duplicate numbers play after the charging of a technical foul upon discovery? I thought not, but now I'm questioning myself after reading through this thread.

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 929839)

Indeed. Folx know it as two and twenty-two and yeah, we don't say twenty-two but that's how they see it.

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 929839)

Indeed. Folx know it as two and twenty-two and yeah, we don't say twenty-two but that's how they see it.

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 929850)

After the technical is assessed, then the first team member to play is the ONLY person that gets to play. This is an example of a ruling that actually means "shall not" or "cannot" even at the expense of a technical.

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 929851)

Sounds good. Got a citation, maybe an interpretation?

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 929853)

I'm assuming that you are looking for something that would allow at least one of them to play????

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 929839)

Indeed. Folx know it as two and twenty-two and yeah, we don't say twenty-two but that's how they see it.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 929874)

We don't? That is exactly what we teach new officials to say in our training classes. Much less likely to be misunderstood than a non-natural two-two.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 929891)

I'm a reformed "two two" guy.