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just another ref Sat Mar 29, 2014 04:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 929727)
At no point do I see the defender's arm "wrapped".

They are in close quarters, but there's no hold there.
Look at the 24-25 second mark. Arm wraps around, hand on the back, almost touching the number.

canuckrefguy Sat Mar 29, 2014 04:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 929735)
Look at the 24-25 second mark. Arm wraps around, hand on the back, almost touching the number.
Arms from both players come together at the moment of the push off. Offensive foul.

If the "hold" is so bad - call the hold.

DRJ1960 Sat Mar 29, 2014 05:01pm
This game reminded me of a private conversation I had this winter in a High School gym while working a game...

Veteran official "observing" my game: "Are they paying your partner?"
Me: "Sure, why wouldn't they?"
Vet: "He hasn't made a call other than OOB all night."

Raymond Sat Mar 29, 2014 05:56pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 929660)
I actually thought this crew did a nice job.....Brian O'Connell does a great job of staying out of the game.....
Uggghhhh!!!!!!!!

Raymond Sat Mar 29, 2014 05:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CNYREF (Post 929624)
Why is Payne for mich state allowed to taunt and yell in the face of Virginia players every time he dunks....has anyone else noticed this...I understand you don't want a technical for something like that in this big a game but a warning or tell him to stop?
The guy has a great last name, but I'm getting him for that first dunk.

Raymond Sat Mar 29, 2014 06:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 929725)
Did he push off? Yes. But it was to free himself. Defender was holding him first. Had his arm wrapped around his back.
Agreed, call the hold and we don't have to worry about the push.

JRutledge Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:09pm
I would get him for taunting or talk to him at some point. Honestly, no one knows if he was talked to unless you were in the arena watching the game and saw the official step to that player or talk to a coach. And even then it would be hard to know for sure if he was warned.

The second play both players have their arms on each other. And yes the Virginia player has his arms around the waist of the MSU player, but I see no restriction. I would have called the push off more likely.

Peace

just another ref Sat Mar 29, 2014 08:10pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 929738)

If the "hold" is so bad - call the hold.
That was the whole point.


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