Right. Got that.
NFHS 5-5-1
NCAA Rule 4, Section 33. Goal

A goal shall be made when:
a. A live ball that is not a throw-in enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through;

What I'm looking for is the part about the top of the ball getting through the bottom of the net...


And to respectfully demonstrate my due diligence and/or awareness of the rules:

NFHS: 4-5-1
A team's own basket is the one into which its players try to throw or tap the ball.

NFHS: 1-10-1
NCAA: Rule 1, Section 13, Article 1

I think John Adams addressed this during his segment on the post game show, but I wasn't able to hear what he said.

This is what I was referring to:
NFHS
1-10-1:

Each basket shall consist of a single metal ring, 18 inches in inside diameter, its flange and braces, and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.

Now you tell me when the ball has passed through the basket.

Maybe you didn't see this...

OK, how 'bout this?

NFHS 5-5-1
NCAA Rule 4, Section 33. Goal

A goal shall be made when:
a. A live ball that is not a throw-in enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through;


What I want to know from Bob, whom I respect quite a bit, is where he got the bit about the top of the ball passing through the bottom of the net. It's not that I doubt him, but that I would rather be able to reference it myself. The reason I'm asking about this lies in the fact that I think there should have been 2.0 or 1.9 seconds on the clock after the made basket. I haven't been able to find anything that confirms that but watching the replays while the game was live made me think there should have been more time on the clock before the "starting the clock late" issue.

Is it really through the basket if some of the ball is still in the basket?

It hasn't passed through until it, well, passes through.

We've all seen the video of some NBA player dunking the ball and it hits his head and flies back out -- no basket, so the clock can't stop.

So how do you reconcile the following?

NFHS 5-5-1
NCAA Rule 4, Section 33. Goal

A goal shall be made when:
a. A live ball that is not a throw-in enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through;

If it's still moving down, then it hasn't "remained in". I don't really see any conflict here.

An object has not passed (through or by) another object until it is completely passed it. Until then, it is merely passING through.

So until A) it passes through (yes, all the way through), or B) it gets stuck - the goal is not completely.

Nor do I. But what I was originally asking is:

Where did you get this? Is it in a rule book somewhere or is it a common-sense interpretation? If it's part of a rule I'd like to know which one. If it's a common-sense interpretation, I agree with it.

Common sense. If it is still going through, it hasn't passed through, yet.

The "remains" phrase is allowing for a net that has become tangled for whatever reason.

Kinda like a dribbler who has his head and shoulders past a defender and then makes contact with the defender's leg. ;) Just being jerky... :)

Yep, never had question about this one.