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Mmcfadden Sun Mar 16, 2014 05:29pm

NCAA referee shoe
 
Can anyone tell me which shoe Division 1 refs are wearing?

OrStBballRef Sun Mar 16, 2014 06:40pm

Preferably black shoes......

bob jenkins Sun Mar 16, 2014 08:14pm

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Originally Posted by Mmcfadden (Post 927295)
Can anyone tell me which shoe Division 1 refs are wearing?

They all wear one shoe?

Rich1 Mon Mar 17, 2014 06:28pm

Do.as I say...
 
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Originally Posted by OrStBballRef (Post 927302)
Preferably black shoes......

Was at a college game a few weeks ago and an official who told us at a camp that we look more profesional in all black was wearing shoes with white trimming. And, I agree with him, he did look less.professional than the other two guys.

Rich Mon Mar 17, 2014 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 927479)
Was at a college game a few weeks ago and an official who told us at a camp that we look more profesional in all black was wearing shoes with white trimming. And, I agree with him, he did look less.professional than the other two guys.

In your opinion. In my opinion, there are at least 100 things more important that show professionalism or a lack thereof.

Adam Mon Mar 17, 2014 07:15pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 927490)
In your opinion. In my opinion, there are at least 100 things more important that show professionalism or a lack thereof.

Editing myself big time right now.

BillyMac Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:00pm

Simple, All Black Means All Back, What Is So Difficult To Understand About That ...
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 927490)
In my opinion, there are at least 100 things more important that show professionalism or a lack thereof.

Fine. So let's make wearing all black shoes the 101st thing on the list. When one's assigner, or supervisor, tells one to wear all back shoes, and one chooses to ignore that rather simple directive, just how unprofessional is that? Isn't following your boss's directions part of being professional. I don't know about you guys, but I usually do what my boss tells me, especially when an instruction is as simple as, "All black shoes".

Rich1 Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:45pm

Professional is defined by the judger, not the judgee
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 927490)
In your opinion. In my opinion, there are at least 100 things more important that show professionalism or a lack thereof.

Not sure I wrote anything that would lead you to believe I was stating anything other than, all other things considered and being equal, he "looked" less professional than the other two. When standing next to the others HE looked out of uniform so, in my opinion, his appearance had an initial affect on how he was perceived. He did a great job and was professional, but the white on the shoes was distracting. If the crew all had white markings it would have looked fine, all I am saying (and what you so obviously missed) is that it did make a difference. Additionally, as I pointed out in my post, this was a person who had said to others as a trainer at a clinic that all black was the only way to go.

And, as has been pointed out by others, it is absolutely unprofessional not to dress the way your employer tells you too. I don't know how this guy was told to dress so I'm not commenting on him or on any other league, etc. But if I'm told all black shoes or no belt or grey shirts instead of black & whites or to wear a jacket for varsity pregame then, as a professional, that's what I do.

BktBallRef Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:47pm

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Originally Posted by Mmcfadden (Post 927295)
Can anyone tell me which shoe Division 1 refs are wearing?

There is no one shoe. Each official wears the shoe they are most comfortable with, just as any official would.

deecee Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:52pm

To bad some officials don't take officiating as seriously as their shoes I guess. :sarcasm:

Rich Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 927501)
Not sure I wrote anything that would lead you to believe I was stating anything other than, all other things considered and being equal, he "looked" less professional than the other two. When standing next to the others HE looked out of uniform so, in my opinion, his appearance had an initial affect on how he was perceived. He did a great job and was professional, but the white on the shoes was distracting. If the crew all had white markings it would have looked fine, all I am saying (and what you so obviously missed) is that it did make a difference. Additionally, as I pointed out in my post, this was a person who had said to others as a trainer at a clinic that all black was the only way to go.

And, as has been pointed out by others, it is absolutely unprofessional not to dress the way your employer tells you too. I don't know how this guy was told to dress so I'm not commenting on him or on any other league, etc. But if I'm told all black shoes or no belt or grey shirts instead of black & whites or to wear a jacket for varsity pregame then, as a professional, that's what I do.

White markings on shoes is distracting? :confused:

The judger is the person doing the hiring. Apparently, it's OK with that person or I'm guessing he wouldn't be wearing the shoes.

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 927504)
To bad some officials don't take officiating as seriously as their shoes I guess. :sarcasm:

Some people look for any reason to put other officials down. As an avocation, overall, we're damned good at it.

Raymond Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:17pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 927508)
White markings on shoes is distracting? :confused:

The judger is the person doing the hiring. Apparently, it's OK with that person or I'm guessing he wouldn't be wearing the shoes.
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I will be interested to see how many officials continue to wear shoes with prominent white markings during the NCAA tournament, as John Adams is definitely not a fan of it.

Rich Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:22pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 927513)
I will be interested to see how many officials continue to wear shoes with prominent white markings during the NCAA tournament, as John Adams is definitely not a fan of it.

Full disclosure - I never have. I could probably list all the shoes I've used since the 1990s, starting with the Converse Running Refs. They all have been all-black.

I just don't care if others do.

deecee Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:28pm

Rich, my third year officiating I was working a BF game with a first year guy. At half time one of the varsity officials walked in and the first thing out of his mouth was, "I can tell you two didn't call each other to communicate before the game."

I was like, "ok". So he goes on to say, "I can tell because you would have talked about your uniform and you would have had matching shoe laces."

My partners were grey.

I looked at him. Said Thanks. Got up and walked away while he was starting to flap his gums some more.

I was proud of myself because I was about to blurt out, "I'm sure that's why we are officiating so piss poorly or did you not notice any of the calls we made due to the glaring and unmatched shoelaces."

JRutledge Mon Mar 17, 2014 09:30pm

The problem it is hard to find all-black shoes. And when you do it is only a certain kind of shoe. Thank God the one I found is all-black and feels very good.

Peace


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