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BillyMac Mon Mar 17, 2014 02:30pm

No, It's Not A Ponzi Scheme ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 927393)
Language is fluid and changes all the time with slang and dialect.

I'm on a personal campaign to bring back the word, "Groovy". It's a cool word, and even sounds cool to say it, it kind of flows off your tongue.

Now if all Forum members can try to use this word at least once every day, and if they can get two others to so the same, and if they can get two others to do the same, etc., etc., then we'll get, "Groovy", right back into circulation. It never should have left everyday language usage to begin with.

Dexter555 Mon Mar 17, 2014 02:59pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 927393)
I have read that it is not technically correct. Again, it really depends on who is saying it and where you are saying that word. Language is fluid and changes all the time with slang and dialect.

Language DOES change, and what becomes so commonplace can sometimes become accepted. Technically, "Can I have some water?" is incorrect, but so few people say "May I" anymore that it may soon become accepted by use.

Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless." All recommend, much like the Oxford dictionary: "Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective , but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean ‘without regard or consideration for’ or ‘nevertheless’."

It is however, clearly understood what the user is saying when they say "irregardless," and it is boorish to correct the user. But I think it would be GROOVY if we all used the more proper word.

Oh, and I didn't make a pre-season prediction, but 3 Ts. 2 for substitutions, 1 for unsportsmanlike spiking the ball after a call.

JRutledge Mon Mar 17, 2014 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by Dexter555 (Post 927446)
Language DOES change, and what becomes so commonplace can sometimes become accepted. Technically, "Can I have some water?" is incorrect, but so few people say "May I" anymore that it may soon become accepted by use.

Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless." All recommend, much like the Oxford dictionary: "Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective , but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean ‘without regard or consideration for’ or ‘nevertheless’."

And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking, I find it funny that people get all upset when we use terms that have variations in speech. If I go to other parts of the country or world, no one is making a big issue out of these words the way we do in this country. ;)

Peace

Dexter555 Mon Mar 17, 2014 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 927449)
And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking, I find it funny that people get all upset when we use terms that have variations in speech. If I go to other parts of the country or world, no one is making a big issue out of these words the way we do in this country. ;)

Couldn't agree more. After studying other languages, I can only imagine how difficult it is to learn English. And you're spot on about other languages. There are so many variants of many world languages. I readily admit my anal retentiveness about grammar. My mother was a high school English/grammar teacher and I grew up with constant correction. But that's a story for group therapy, not this forum! ;) And it was most definitely NOT groovy to have her teach in the same school I attended...

bainsey Mon Mar 17, 2014 06:43pm

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Originally Posted by Dexter555 (Post 927446)
Not so with irregardless. I have never seen a credible grammar source or dictionary--and I have looked extensively--that suggests "irregardless" is accepted or interchangeable with "regardless."

There it is. If you put "ir" before a word, it becomes that word's opposite (e.g. irrational, opposite of rational). When one says "irregardless," one means "regardless." That alone is wrong... or irrational.

JRutledge Mon Mar 17, 2014 06:53pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 927482)
There it is. If you put "ir" before a word, it becomes that word's opposite (e.g. irrational, opposite of rational). When one says "irregardless," one means "regardless." That alone is wrong... or irrational.

There seems to be a debate.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Mar 17, 2014 07:46pm

That's A Knife ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 927449)
And the English language is one of the most difficult languages because the language has so many different words that mean the same thing. And if you look to our people across the pond that tend to speak English too, but have many different sayings or standards of speaking.

My son-in-law is from Australia. I have no idea what he's saying half of the time. What language do they speak in Australia?

JRutledge Mon Mar 17, 2014 07:55pm

African.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Mar 17, 2014 08:04pm

Out Of Africa ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 927497)
African.

Not a language. Not a country, but we all come from there. All of us. Every single one of us. We are all cousins. No two people are more distantly related than 50th cousins.

Rich Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:08pm

Any chance this thread might meander back to the original topic?

Stat-Man Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 927222)
What? Intentionally throwing the ball AT (not TO) you? WOW, Stat-Man!

A few seconds before this, he was frustrated over a no-call, and had I not said something, he was set to slam the ball in disgust.

When he threw the ball at me after the period ended, I could only think that if this was his way of thanking me for being preventative, he could have the T-party I prevented the moment before. Of course, his coach tried telling my partner how the kid was the most docile player on the team. :rolleyes: But both my partner and assignor had no problem with the call. (This particular assignor wants reports on all unsporting technical fouls.)

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Originally Posted by AremRed
I learned this year that you only remember the techs you didn't call.

I had this in a MS Girls game in the fall. I let an AC say way too much (yeah, I know) during the game and it left a bad taste in my mouth. And my partner's halftime advice to ignore the AC -- while a short-term solution -- did little to address the main problem. On the way back home, I told myself I would not let this happen again and made sure to write about it in my journal.

AremRed Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:38am

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 927524)
On the way back home, I told myself I would not let this happen again and made sure to write about it in my journal.

Is this a regular journal or an officiating journal?

Raymond Tue Mar 18, 2014 06:59am

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 927524)
A few seconds before this, he was frustrated over a no-call, and had I not said something, he was set to slam the ball in disgust.

When he threw the ball at me after the period ended, I could only think that if this was his way of thanking me for being preventative, he could have the T-party I prevented the moment before.....

Too much thinking. Warn once, then T. You don't have to justify something as obvious as this.

Terrapins Fan Tue Mar 18, 2014 09:16am

I did not keep track of mine, but I was at about 7.

In church league, I whacked a coach, 2 kids. In HS, I whacked a coach who wanted to be "T"ed, An assistant & I whacked a kid for cussing. I also got a MS Assistant coach.

I have learned the art of patience....I hope. In past years I have been around 20.

Adam Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:24am

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 927203)
I nailed my predicted zero Ts issued out of zero games worked.

Me too, almost.

Zero Ts, 5 games.


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