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Sharpshooternes Thu Mar 13, 2014 07:35pm

Penn State and Minnesota sequence starting at 4:08 second half.
 
Thoughts on the contact on the Penn state side of the floor but my main question was what are people's thoughts on the the trails mechanic just after the 4:00 play. Thanks.

ILRef80 Thu Mar 13, 2014 07:42pm

L (Kitts) was right on the play. He didn't look too happy with Boroski taking the call.

Boroski had a really rough game. Called a completely phantom lane violation at a critical time. I'm not sure how calls like that are missed. It happened with :55 left in the 2nd half if someone wants to get video.

Sharpshooternes Thu Mar 13, 2014 07:51pm

While we are at it. Lane violation Penn State-Minnesota 58 seconds left second half
 
Talking heads said that it was "stunningly bad." I actually thought it was a good call.

Sharpshooternes Thu Mar 13, 2014 08:50pm

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Originally Posted by ILRef80 (Post 926974)
L (Kitts) was right on the play. He didn't look too happy with Boroski taking the call.

Boroski had a really rough game. Called a completely phantom lane violation at a critical time. I'm not sure how calls like that are missed. It happened with :55 left in the 2nd half if someone wants to get video.

Why didn't you like the lane violation, or more correctly disconcertion?

AremRed Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:07am

Some of you may be able to browse to the plays (3:56 and 0:55 second half) here: ESPN3 -- Penn State vs. Minnesota

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Mar 14, 2014 04:22am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 926985)
Why didn't you like the lane violation, or more correctly disconcertion?


I agree. Disconcerting Action and the talking heads did not have a clue.

MTD, Sr.


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AremRed Fri Mar 14, 2014 04:37am

For everyone's information this was called a lane violation on Penn State #10, not disconcertion by Penn State #23 or any other player. In the replay from behind the shooter we can clearly see #10 (lowest block opposite L and T, left side from that angle) move his right foot into the offensive players lane space. #23 even has time to move his foot back into his own space before the release of the FT.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Mar 14, 2014 07:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 927010)
For everyone's information this was called a lane violation on Penn State #10, not disconcertion by Penn State #23 or any other player. In the replay from behind the shooter we can clearly see #10 (lowest block opposite L and T, left side from that angle) move his right foot into the offensive players lane space. #23 even has time to move his foot back into his own space before the release of the FT.


I did not see PSU-10's lane violation but PSU-23's Disconcertion was so obvious.

MTD, Sr.

Raymond Fri Mar 14, 2014 09:10am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 926985)
Why didn't you like the lane violation, or more correctly disconcertion?

He clearly called a lane violation on Blue 10, not disconcertion.

Raymond Fri Mar 14, 2014 09:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILRef80 (Post 926974)
L (Kitts) was right on the play. He didn't look too happy with Boroski taking the call...

Actually, Kitts didn't put himself in a good position to see the foul by stopping where he did. Boroski had the angle to see between the players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILRef80 (Post 926974)
...Boroski had a really rough game. Called a completely phantom lane violation at a critical time. I'm not sure how calls like that are missed. It happened with :55 left in the 2nd half if someone wants to get video.

It wasn't phantom, but it was minor. I would not come from the T on a free throw to get something that obscure.

ILRef80 Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:11am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 926985)
Why didn't you like the lane violation, or more correctly disconcertion?

Because, as noted, he didn't call disconcertion. He called a lane violation on #10. Maybe I missed it, but I certainly didn't see #10 enter the lane early.

twocentsworth Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:11am

[QUOTE=ILRef80;926974]L (Kitts) was right on the play. He didn't look too happy with Boroski taking the call.QUOTE]

That is ABSOLUTELY A FOUL. Kitts was "straightlined" and couldn't see the foul. If Kitts is mad at anyone....he should be mad at himself for ONCE AGAIN not being in position to see a play in his area. (That's a pretty common theme when he officiates).

AremRed Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 927038)
It wasn't phantom, but it was minor. I would not come from the T on a free throw to get something that obscure.

Yeah, I wonder why the Trail was looking there and then why he felt the need to call that. Maybe just let Lead take the backlash for missing that.

AremRed Fri Mar 14, 2014 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 927044)
That is ABSOLUTELY A FOUL. Kitts was "straightlined" and couldn't see the foul. If Kitts is mad at anyone....he should be mad at himself for ONCE AGAIN not being in position to see a play in his area. (That's a pretty common theme when he officiates).

It's a Division 1 game with Division 1 athletes. I think anyone would be behind the play, not just Kitts. Hell, look at the play right before. The Trail running to new Lead got stuck in the same spot Kitts did, and probably missed a foul at the other end.


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