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JetMetFan Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:07pm

No-Call or Foul...2 plays (video)
 
Two plays. The first play I was more interested in the action on the initial blocked shot but feel free to comment on both parts of that one :)


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JRutledge Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:18pm

First play I have a foul on the defender, jumping which appears not to be vertical.

The second play, I got nothing. Two players going at the ball and it looks like the smaller player bounced off the bigger player. I got nothing either way.

Peace

AremRed Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:19pm

Play 1: Foul. Blocking foul on black 21.

Play 2: No call.

just another ref Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:22pm

First play is an obvious foul. Second play I have nothing.

JetMetFan Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:22pm

My initial thought on play #1 had as much to do with the time when it took place as the contact. Sometimes I think when we're early in a game, especially a postseason game, we get so stuck on not making a "bad" call we forget the good ones.

Pantherdreams Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:30pm

#1. Blocking foul. Defense is moving forward into the path of airborn shooter.

#2. Hard to tell on the 2nd one from the angle if the contact is just leaping bodies competing or if the final rebound the rebounder extends that left arm to create space agaainst the smaller d. From the fact that I'm unsure and from this angle I've got nothing.

Camron Rust Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:37pm

#1. Block....no reason to not call that one.
#2. Nothing.

JetMetFan Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:40pm

BTW, play #2 I was looking at the angle Black #24 took to go after the ball. It looked more like he was jumping into White #35 as opposed to making an attempt at the rebound.

deecee Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:42pm

Play 1 foul.
Play 2 nothing anywhere.

A Pennsylvania Coach Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 925451)
First play I have a foul on the defender, jumping which appears not to be vertical.

The second play, I got nothing. Two players going at the ball and it looks like the smaller player bounced off the bigger player. I got nothing either way.

Peace

Agree 100%

bob jenkins Mon Mar 03, 2014 04:57pm

Is play 2 the first rebound (on the right of the basket, as we are looking at it), or the second rebound (on the left)?

JetMetFan Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 925491)
Is play 2 the first rebound (on the right of the basket, as we are looking at it), or the second rebound (on the left)?

Bob, my focus when I clipped it was the one on the right.

ballgame99 Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:18pm

Play 1 isn't as obvious as everyone is letting on, #21 goes pretty vertical. In the end I probably go with a foul, but it was close. The agressive arm swing would not help #21's case.

Play 2 was a no call for me on first watching, but on second watching the second black rebounder (#24) definitely comes over into the white rebounder and should be called for a foul. In transition though, that is understandably missed. The second rebound (the one on the left) is a good no call. On a related note: where are the officials on this play? I see a C, and assume there must be an L off screen to the right? I never see a T.

JetMetFan Mon Mar 03, 2014 05:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 925501)
On a related note: where are the officials on this play? I see a C, and assume there must be an L off screen to the right? I never see a T.

As you guessed, L was off screen on the right. Probably a bit too far wide since that would've put him out by the 3-point line. He doesn't move into frame on the video until the Black players start heading up court and White #35 starts to get up.

At roughly the 4:10 mark on the game clock the T was a little above the top of the 3-point arc tableside in the backcourt dealing with the press. If he made it into the frontcourt he didn't make it to the 28-foot line before the ball changed possession.

Blindolbat Mon Mar 03, 2014 06:48pm

1st Play: Foul
2nd Play: Foul on 24 Black and don't know why the L wouldn't catch that

zm1283 Mon Mar 03, 2014 07:04pm

1st - Foul on defender
2nd - Nothing


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