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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:07pm
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No-Call or Foul...2 plays (video)

Two plays. The first play I was more interested in the action on the initial blocked shot but feel free to comment on both parts of that one


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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:18pm
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First play I have a foul on the defender, jumping which appears not to be vertical.

The second play, I got nothing. Two players going at the ball and it looks like the smaller player bounced off the bigger player. I got nothing either way.

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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:19pm
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Play 1: Foul. Blocking foul on black 21.

Play 2: No call.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:22pm
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First play is an obvious foul. Second play I have nothing.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:22pm
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My initial thought on play #1 had as much to do with the time when it took place as the contact. Sometimes I think when we're early in a game, especially a postseason game, we get so stuck on not making a "bad" call we forget the good ones.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:30pm
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#1. Blocking foul. Defense is moving forward into the path of airborn shooter.

#2. Hard to tell on the 2nd one from the angle if the contact is just leaping bodies competing or if the final rebound the rebounder extends that left arm to create space agaainst the smaller d. From the fact that I'm unsure and from this angle I've got nothing.
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#1. Block....no reason to not call that one.
#2. Nothing.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:40pm
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BTW, play #2 I was looking at the angle Black #24 took to go after the ball. It looked more like he was jumping into White #35 as opposed to making an attempt at the rebound.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:42pm
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Play 1 foul.
Play 2 nothing anywhere.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:55pm
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First play I have a foul on the defender, jumping which appears not to be vertical.

The second play, I got nothing. Two players going at the ball and it looks like the smaller player bounced off the bigger player. I got nothing either way.

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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 04:57pm
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Is play 2 the first rebound (on the right of the basket, as we are looking at it), or the second rebound (on the left)?
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Is play 2 the first rebound (on the right of the basket, as we are looking at it), or the second rebound (on the left)?
Bob, my focus when I clipped it was the one on the right.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 05:18pm
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Play 1 isn't as obvious as everyone is letting on, #21 goes pretty vertical. In the end I probably go with a foul, but it was close. The agressive arm swing would not help #21's case.

Play 2 was a no call for me on first watching, but on second watching the second black rebounder (#24) definitely comes over into the white rebounder and should be called for a foul. In transition though, that is understandably missed. The second rebound (the one on the left) is a good no call. On a related note: where are the officials on this play? I see a C, and assume there must be an L off screen to the right? I never see a T.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 05:33pm
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On a related note: where are the officials on this play? I see a C, and assume there must be an L off screen to the right? I never see a T.
As you guessed, L was off screen on the right. Probably a bit too far wide since that would've put him out by the 3-point line. He doesn't move into frame on the video until the Black players start heading up court and White #35 starts to get up.

At roughly the 4:10 mark on the game clock the T was a little above the top of the 3-point arc tableside in the backcourt dealing with the press. If he made it into the frontcourt he didn't make it to the 28-foot line before the ball changed possession.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2014, 06:48pm
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1st Play: Foul
2nd Play: Foul on 24 Black and don't know why the L wouldn't catch that

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