Video Request of Kansas at Oklahoma State game.
 

An OSU player was called for a block against a KU player with 6:50 left in the second half. It was an easier charge call than the one in the Syracuse-Duke game of last Saturday.

I would appreciate it for our video gurus to post a video of the play. Much thanks in advance.

MTD, Sr.

Some of you may be able to browse to the play (6:50 second half) here: ESPN3 -- Kansas vs. Oklahoma State

Looks like a charge to me.

video added
 

Here's the play...


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In real time, it appears the defender is moving forward at the point of contact. Slo-mo replay doesn't really disprove that theory either (IMO)…maybe muddles it just a little. I have no problem with a block call here.

I don't think this play was nearly as definitive as Duke-Syracuse.

This is what happens when you move away from NFHS toward the NBA in philosophy.

They took a difficult call that came down to LGP vs airborne player to LGP, restricted area vs upward motion. So instead of two pretty much cut and dry judgments you now have one cut and dry, one less so and one that is being interpreted all over the place.

No call, if I could get away with it. I see the offensive player go to the defender, but the through is very minimal, if anything.

If not, charge. I see the defender establish LGP before upward motion occurs, however like the Duke-Syracuse play the defender appears to be moving forward because he is straightening his knees and standing taller.

Charge ...
 

In my high school game: Player control foul. I don't know what the heck it would be with the new NCAA rule interpretation, and I don't care (unless it trickles down to the NFHS someday).

Block

Block. Defender still moving forward at the time of contact.

Camron, it seems his feet are stationary. Is the slight forward movement of his torso, as he straightens up, enough to consider the defender as still moving into the shooter?

I am a KU guy but if I am the L, we are going the other way with a PCF.

MTD, Sr.

Yes. If the defender contacts opponent with his torso when the torso is still moving forward, that is not LGP, just like a lean into the path of an opponent who is slipping buy. I'd consider it different if the defender had already been there and was just "firming up", as some like to call it, but, in this play, he was just jumping into position and didn't get "there" yet.

Thanks, Camron. It's a close one, and this season I've been concentrating on two aspects of such calls:
1) What did the defender do wrong?
2) How do I answer, specifically, if his coach asks me what he did wrong?

"Firming up" was exactly what he was doing.

PC FOUL.

Peace

"through" isn't really needed -- I think this was a POE a couple of years ago.

The OP is a block (finally got to see it).

I agree. Defender is still moving forward.

+1

I like the charge.

But I've always been a proponent of not enough PCs are called.

No he wasn't. Firming up is when the player has already been in position, and just straightens up, not when they're trying to get their initial vertical position.

I would've agreed with you 15-20 years ago.

Today, however, I think too many officials default to the PC when there's a big crash rather than properly officiating the defense.