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jeremy341a Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:02pm

T or Talk?
 
VB 2nd quarter in a close game. H1 drives the lane and is fouled by V1. My partner is the L ball side and calls the foul. I am T opposite side and hold my spot to observe the players. My partner gives his preliminary and signals two shots. V1 is now holding the ball and turned his back on my partner. He power dribbles the ball then gives a loud Pfffttt noise while rolling his eyes and then proceeds to toss the ball about rim height and while putting his arms up in the "WTF" gesture. He did catch the ball on the way down. Do you T him or talk to him?

deecee Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:03pm

Depends on if I have "talked" already or how demonstrative the actions were. Sometimes officials take these types of actions to be disrespectful when there are instances that they are done out of frustration towards themselves. It's really a HTBT situation.

jTheUmp Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:08pm

As described, I'd probably be serving T about 90% of the time (the other 10% would be if there were some extenuating HTBT circumstance).

AremRed Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:15pm

Each of those actions by itself probably warrants a "KNOCK IT OFF!" or a more polite talking to.

However, put all those actions together -- technical.

BigT Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by aremred (Post 924815)
each of those actions by itself probably warrants a "knock it off!" or a more polite talking to.

However, put all those actions together -- technical.

+1

jeremy341a Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:57pm

I did call a Technical foul. The Coach of V told me I should talk to his player because it is important game. I told him all the more reason for the player to retain his composure.

grunewar Wed Feb 26, 2014 03:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 924825)
The Coach of V told me I should talk to his player because it is important game.

No, coach YOU should have talked to your team and told them not to do anything stupid, and to keep their composure, etc, because it's an important game.

#olderthanilook Wed Feb 26, 2014 03:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 924825)
i did call a technical foul. The coach of v told me i should talk to his player because it is important game. i told him all the more reason for the player to retain his composure.

+1

deecee Wed Feb 26, 2014 03:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 924825)
I did call a Technical foul. The Coach of V told me I should talk to his player because it is important game. I told him all the more reason for the player to retain his composure.

I usually have a set respond to the "importance" statement. I don't let the "importance" of a game effect my judgement. Stupid behavior is stupid behavior in any circumstance. That's why its called STUPID.:D Duh!

Toren Wed Feb 26, 2014 03:37pm

Sounds like a T party to me. V1 just got invited.

When a coach says I should have talked to their player, I usually respond with that technical isn't on me, it's on him.

Raymond Wed Feb 26, 2014 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 924829)
Sounds like a T party to me. V1 just got invited.

When a coach says I should have talked to their player, I usually respond with that technical isn't on me, it's on him.

I respond with "You should have talked to them when the season started". :rolleyes:

Adam Wed Feb 26, 2014 04:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 924825)
I did call a Technical foul. The Coach of V told me I should talk to his player because it is important game. I told him all the more reason for the player to retain his composure.

"Coach, we've got you and the captains for talking to him."

bainsey Wed Feb 26, 2014 05:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 924826)
No, coach YOU should have talked to your team and told them not to do anything stupid, and to keep their composure, etc, because it's an important game.

Yup.

Toren Wed Feb 26, 2014 06:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 924830)
I respond with "You should have talked to them when the season started". :rolleyes:

How about this, "Have one of your 6 assistants talk to him?"

Too much? :rolleyes:

Adam Wed Feb 26, 2014 06:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toren (Post 924842)
How about this, "Have one of your 6 assistants talk to him?"

Too much? :rolleyes:

I might use that in a summer game. :)


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