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Toren Tue Feb 25, 2014 05:57pm
Correctable error?
 
What say ye...

Team B is assessed a technical. Coach A requests to have a substitute shoot the technical shots. The referees deny the substitution citing that the coach must choose one of the players on the court.

The coach relents and tells A1 to shoot the free throws but continues to tell the closest referee that the rules allow for any eligible player to shoot the technical shots.

A1 misses the first of the two free throws and finally the referee brings his partners together and after debating it, they agree with the coach. The coach now wants to shoot a replacement free throw citing, the crew "permitted the wrong player to attempt a free throw."

Do we allow the substitute to shoot 2 free throws?

Adam Tue Feb 25, 2014 06:01pm
NOt a CE, IMO.

johnny d Tue Feb 25, 2014 06:48pm
Absolutely not. Further, if there was any question as to whether or not the coach was correct, why did these dumbasses wait to discuss it until after one of the free throws was attempted. They put themselves in a trick bag that they have no rule-based way to get out of. These guys failed on two fronts: rules knowledge and game management.

deecee Tue Feb 25, 2014 06:51pm
This is not a CE. The merited FT's were awarded. A rule was kicked, but none of the criteria for a CE are met.

River Ref Tue Feb 25, 2014 07:54pm
Agree..........How could they have let it go so far wrong wrong? Too arragant to even ask a partner just to be certain that a coach just might have had something.

stick Tue Feb 25, 2014 08:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toren (Post 924688)
What say ye...

Team B is assessed a technical. Coach A requests to have a substitute shoot the technical shots. The referees deny the substitution citing that the coach must choose one of the players on the court.

The coach relents and tells A1 to shoot the free throws but continues to tell the closest referee that the rules allow for any eligible player to shoot the technical shots.

A1 misses the first of the two free throws and finally the referee brings his partners together and after debating it, they agree with the coach. The coach now wants to shoot a replacement free throw citing, the crew "permitted the wrong player to attempt a free throw."

Do we allow the substitute to shoot 2 free throws?
Absolutely not. Those free throws stand. I can't believe that crew would even consider that let alone allow it!! For the record, a coach can sub in 1 player to shoot the first t and then sub in another player to shoot the second t.

Bad Zebra Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:23pm
Did this actually occur or is it just a "what if" scenario?

Officials' error is not one of the five correctables.

OrStBballRef Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:26pm
The only error here is on the officials....

Not a CE by rule

Nevadaref Wed Feb 26, 2014 02:05am
Quote:
Originally Posted by stick (Post 924700)
Absolutely not. Those free throws stand. I can't believe that crew would even consider that let alone allow it!! For the record, a coach can sub in 1 player to shoot the first t and then sub in another player to shoot the second t.
Correct for NFHS. For NCAA the same player must attempt both.

Toren Wed Feb 26, 2014 09:21am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 924711)
Did this actually occur or is it just a "what if" scenario?

Officials' error is not one of the five correctables.
What if scenario.

I didn't realize it would incite such emotions towards a fictional crew.:o

Adam Wed Feb 26, 2014 09:55am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toren (Post 924744)
What if scenario.

I didn't realize it would incite such emotions towards a fictional crew.:o
+1

Nothing like a little righteous indignation to artificially inflate self esteem.

Freddy Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:30am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toren (Post 924744)
I didn't realize it would incite such emotions towards a fictional crew.:o
Suitable reaction, given that most of us are fictional officials. :D

deecee Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 924768)
Suitable reaction, given that most of us are fictional officials. :D
You sir just won the INTERNETS.

rockyroad Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:42am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam (Post 924756)
+1

Nothing like a little righteous indignation to artificially inflate self esteem.
Nice!! :D

bob jenkins Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:56am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam (Post 924756)
+1

Nothing like a little righteous indignation to artificially inflate self esteem.
anonymity and righteous indignation are the Viagra of internet self esteem


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