Where problems start... (video)

[JetMetFan]

This game took place in the St. Louis area. The only write-up I've found online doesn't mention this situation. Other info:

*The home team was leading by eight at half
*The situation took place in the third quarter
*With no full write-up it's not known how the crew ultimately handled the situation
*The visiting (edit) team eventually won by 17
*The schools were playing for their division lead

A very good illustration of why calling the first foul is important.

[deecee]

Foul on black in the first part of the video, then in the second part foul on black again for pushing whites arm away.

Then when they start wrestling there is only a whistle for the takedown. I wonder if black was given 2 points for the perfectly executed over the back barrel roll takedown maneuver.

[Raymond]

Doesn't help that the Lead is asleep through the entire 2nd sequence, and the C casually walks in like it's a routine foul.

The Trail, who was further away is the first one of the scene...SMH

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Doesn't help that the Lead is asleep through the entire 2nd sequence, and the C casually walks in like it's a routine foul.

The Trail, who was further away is the first one of the scene...SMH

But looking at the T he was looking at the whole to do the whole time.

[Toren]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Doesn't help that the Lead is asleep through the entire 2nd sequence, and the C casually walks in like it's a routine foul.

The Trail, who was further away is the first one of the scene...SMH

This

+1

[blindzebra]

In areas where we don't have 3-person it pains me to see it wasted like it was in this game.

What the hell were they watching? Because it wasn't their primaries.

[Nikki]

A foul in the first play on black...calling this and a quick talking to about the extra activity probably prevents the next situation.
But...In light of no call there the biggest problem is that the lead doesn't rotate at the other end. If he rotates this play is right in front of him and maybe he gets the first foul (or the second or third). Too many times in this area officials don't want to rotate "until the ball settles lower than the free throw line".

Full disclosure: I asked JMF to post this video for me, the visitors actually won the game by 17...The penalties handed out were a double foul on black 11 and the white player that goes down. Then double technicals for the shoving after the play.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nikki

A foul in the first play on black...calling this and a quick talking to about the extra activity probably prevents the next situation.
But...In light of no call there the biggest problem is that the lead doesn't rotate at the other end. If he rotates this play is right in front of him and maybe he gets the first foul (or the second or third). Too many times in this area officials don't want to rotate "until the ball settles lower than the free throw line".

Full disclosure: I asked JMF to post this video for me, the visitors actually won the game by 17...The penalties handed out were a double foul on black 11 and the white player that goes down. Then double technicals for the shoving after the play.

If the C is "on ball" the L should be closing down, looking to rotate, and then doing so. I agree with you - I don't get why some officials don't rotate more frequently or why they hesitate rather than just *going*.

[stick]

Originally Posted by Nikki

A foul in the first play on black...calling this and a quick talking to about the extra activity probably prevents the next situation.
But...In light of no call there the biggest problem is that the lead doesn't rotate at the other end. If he rotates this play is right in front of him and maybe he gets the first foul (or the second or third). Too many times in this area officials don't want to rotate "until the ball settles lower than the free throw line".

Full disclosure: I asked JMF to post this video for me, the visitors actually won the game by 17...The penalties handed out were a double foul on black 11 and the white player that goes down. Then double technicals for the shoving after the play.

Exactly correct. Why the L didn't flex on this play is puzzling to me.