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CountTheBasket Thu Feb 20, 2014 09:41pm

Potential Game Winner Waved Off
 
PC foul on a shot that went down and would've been a game winner at the end of OT at Columbia. Thoughts?? It is at 4:15 in the video...

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/Sport...86&SPSID=43668

Edit: Sorry guys, can't get the link to work properly...If anyone is interested it's at 4:15 in the Columbia/Harvard Highlight Video--I realize that's quite the hunt I'm sending everyone on but I can't figure out how to delete the thread...

AremRed Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:06pm

Direct link to the play here: Columbia vs. Harvard

Raymond Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:44pm

PC foul. Not only ran defender over, but also led with the knee.

Adam Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:00am

Great call!

constable Fri Feb 21, 2014 03:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923928)
Great call!


Good call. Any idea what the trail might have been coming in to chat about?

Camron Rust Fri Feb 21, 2014 04:04am

Gutsy and correct call....quite unlike another recently discussed block/charge video.

CountTheBasket Fri Feb 21, 2014 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by constable (Post 923938)
Good call. Any idea what the trail might have been coming in to chat about?

I only do HS, not NCAA, but my guess is he's asking if he wants to count the basket for releasing before the foul...

jTheUmp Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:24am

PC all the way. Great call by the L

CountTheBasket Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:34am

It's Lonely In here...
 
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

HokiePaul Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:46am

I wish we had a different angle. I watched this over and over and I can see it both ways. Watching only the defender, he does slide to his right (and possibly into the shooter) after the shooter has left the ground. I think this video is too far away to be conclusive, and I don't think there is obvious right call here. In my opinion, the only really bad call would have been a no-call.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 923984)
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

I too think he moved to the right a bit but I don't think it was a move that brought him underneath the shooter. I think he was in the path either way and the movement was irrelevant.

Raymond Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 923984)
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 924007)
I too think he moved to the right a bit but I don't think it was a move that brought him underneath the shooter. I think he was in the path either way and the movement was irrelevant.

Doesn't matter anyway, contact occurred before A1 was airborne.

Welpe Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:59pm

Here's a direct link to the play:

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/media...526&id=3197673

The embedded code was locking up some browsers it seems.

IUgrad92 Fri Feb 21, 2014 01:12pm

Agree with PC. Would have been nice if the official opposite table would have picked up on the rotation a bit sooner so that he potentially could of supported the play a bit more as C. Video makes it appear that Lead had been table side for a while.....

Would also like to see T stay engaged (close down a step or two) with the drive, mainly because the primary defender was involved. I would expect the L to hold for at least a secondary cadence on this play, especially considering the crash was high post.

HokiePaul Fri Feb 21, 2014 01:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 924026)
I would expect the L to hold for at least a secondary cadence on this play, especially considering the crash was high post.

Kind of looks like he did; the whistle wasn't immediate


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