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CountTheBasket Thu Feb 20, 2014 09:41pm

Potential Game Winner Waved Off
 
PC foul on a shot that went down and would've been a game winner at the end of OT at Columbia. Thoughts?? It is at 4:15 in the video...

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/Sport...86&SPSID=43668

Edit: Sorry guys, can't get the link to work properly...If anyone is interested it's at 4:15 in the Columbia/Harvard Highlight Video--I realize that's quite the hunt I'm sending everyone on but I can't figure out how to delete the thread...

AremRed Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:06pm

Direct link to the play here: Columbia vs. Harvard

Raymond Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:44pm

PC foul. Not only ran defender over, but also led with the knee.

Adam Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:00am

Great call!

constable Fri Feb 21, 2014 03:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 923928)
Great call!


Good call. Any idea what the trail might have been coming in to chat about?

Camron Rust Fri Feb 21, 2014 04:04am

Gutsy and correct call....quite unlike another recently discussed block/charge video.

CountTheBasket Fri Feb 21, 2014 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by constable (Post 923938)
Good call. Any idea what the trail might have been coming in to chat about?

I only do HS, not NCAA, but my guess is he's asking if he wants to count the basket for releasing before the foul...

jTheUmp Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:24am

PC all the way. Great call by the L

CountTheBasket Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:34am

It's Lonely In here...
 
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

HokiePaul Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:46am

I wish we had a different angle. I watched this over and over and I can see it both ways. Watching only the defender, he does slide to his right (and possibly into the shooter) after the shooter has left the ground. I think this video is too far away to be conclusive, and I don't think there is obvious right call here. In my opinion, the only really bad call would have been a no-call.

Camron Rust Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 923984)
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

I too think he moved to the right a bit but I don't think it was a move that brought him underneath the shooter. I think he was in the path either way and the movement was irrelevant.

Raymond Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 923984)
I think the defender continues moving to his right and slides underneath the airborne shooter, disagree with the PC. I've also watched the replay about 15 times so I certianly can't fault the PC call that was made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 924007)
I too think he moved to the right a bit but I don't think it was a move that brought him underneath the shooter. I think he was in the path either way and the movement was irrelevant.

Doesn't matter anyway, contact occurred before A1 was airborne.

Welpe Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:59pm

Here's a direct link to the play:

http://www.gocolumbialions.com/media...526&id=3197673

The embedded code was locking up some browsers it seems.

IUgrad92 Fri Feb 21, 2014 01:12pm

Agree with PC. Would have been nice if the official opposite table would have picked up on the rotation a bit sooner so that he potentially could of supported the play a bit more as C. Video makes it appear that Lead had been table side for a while.....

Would also like to see T stay engaged (close down a step or two) with the drive, mainly because the primary defender was involved. I would expect the L to hold for at least a secondary cadence on this play, especially considering the crash was high post.

HokiePaul Fri Feb 21, 2014 01:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IUgrad92 (Post 924026)
I would expect the L to hold for at least a secondary cadence on this play, especially considering the crash was high post.

Kind of looks like he did; the whistle wasn't immediate

constable Sat Feb 22, 2014 01:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 923946)
I only do HS, not NCAA, but my guess is he's asking if he wants to count the basket for releasing before the foul...

The FIBA rule is similar to the NCAA. That was my guess.


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