Of course he put his arms out, he is falling. And I do not feel that is what brought the shooter on the floor. The defender made a bad decision to jump up and the shooter was waiting for him to come down and tries to cause the contact or help the contact. I see this play often and would almost never consider it intentional.

Peace

Yep...I have an INT on the first for that very reason.

I have a common on the 2nd.

Common on both for me.

I do think that both need to be ruled the same in that game.

Play 1: Intentional

Play 2: Common foul

Agree.

It's the fact that his right arm wraps up the head/neck area of the shooter as he is coming down that makes it INT, imho.

Second one looks pretty common, but as others have said, I can see it going INT based on the earlier call.

Agree ... I would have common fouls in both unless there was something else going on in the game. I liked the officials getting together in play #1 and decided to upgrade more than the immediate call in play #2. The trail would have been in a good position to provide info on the defenders attempt to play the ball.

Play 1: the contact of the right arm to A1's head makes it an IF for me

Play 2: under normal circumstances that would be a normal 2-shot PF. But other events in the game (including play 1) may influence this call.

I'm with you guys. I see a lot of kids jump like in Play 1 and land on the shooter. The part where he dragged him to the floor was intentional and excessive contact IMO.

Play 2 would be a common foul for me by itself. Considering the first foul, I can see why they went intentional.

Count me in this camp. #2 is a bit excessive, but by itself it's a quick chat with the defender.

I agree with these responses.
On the first play it seems that the defender got into a tough spot and became afraid that he was going to fall hard so he grabbed the offensive player in whatever manner he could to prevent his own hard landing. That grabbing turned out to be around the head and neck, which dragged down the offensive player.
The fact is that this was excessive contact caused by the defender. It doesn't matter that he may have been trying to prevent his own awkward fall. Too bad. He is the one who decided to jump and put himself in that spot.

The second play is just a regular foul while trying to block a shot, even though the defender is fouling from behind. Going intentional here seems to be an overreaction.

Common on 1; Int on 2.

You're a funny dude.

1. Intentional.
2. Common.