Violation or not? Player near sideline
A1 intercepts a pass near the sideline. He takes one dribble in bounds, sees that he is headed out of bounds, one-handed passes the ball up the court, comes back on bounds, and continues dribbling. Violation?
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If by 1-handed pass you mean he caught it and threw it, then it is an illegal dribble. (double dribble)
If by 1-handed pass you mean that he batted it down the floor, left the ball (it got away from him), then it is legal. (interrupted dribble) |
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In this situation, it was clear that the player intentionally tipped the ball up the court so he could continue dribbling after he returned in bounds.
Is there a case play similar to this? |
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Personally, I have an interrupted dribble. There's nothing in the rule that says it has to be accidental to be interrupted. He relinquished control knowing he was going OOB and couldn't stop it. Then he returns to the court and resumes the dribble. My rule of thumb, if the ball leaves his reach and/or bounces twice, it's an interrupted dribble. Note, that's a rule of thumb, not an absolute. |
This sounds pretty similar to this play I had a few years ago. We had a good discussion about it.
http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post634626 |
NOT.
The player made a smart, legal play. There will always be officials who see this as something that should be penalized but by rule, it's nothing. |
I believe these situations are covered by 7.1.1 B, C, and D ('11-'12 Casebook)
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Let's Go To The Videotape ...
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floor inbounds, but A1, who is off balance, steps off the court. A1 returns inbounds, secures control of the ball and dribbles. RULING: Legal. A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he/she did. This situation is similar to one in which A1 makes a try from under the basket and momentum carries A1 off the court. If the try is unsuccessful, A1 may come back onto the court and regain control since A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he/she did. 7.1.1 SITUATION C: A1 blocks a pass near the sideline and the ball goes into A1’s front court. A1’s momentum carries him/her out of bounds. He/she immediately returns inbounds, secures control of the ball, dribbles, shoots, and scores. RULING: Legal. (4-35-1a; 7-1-2; 9-3) 7.1.1 SITUATION D: A1 jumps from inbounds to retrieve an errant pass near a boundary line. A1 catches the ball while in the air and tosses it back to the court. A1 lands out of bounds and (a) is the first to touch the ball after returning inbounds; (b) returns inbounds and immediately dribbles the ball; or (c) picks up the ball after returning to the court and then begins a dribble. RULING: Legal in (a) and (b). Illegal in (c) as the controlled toss of the ball to the court by A1 constitutes the start of a dribble, dribbling a second time after picking up the ball is an illegal dribble violation. (4-15-5; 4-15-6d; 4-35; 9-5) |
Does This Apply Here ???
9-3-1-Note: The dribbler has committed a violation if he/she steps on or outside a boundary,
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Dribble Interuptus ???
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off the dribbler or after it momentarily gets away from the dribbler. There is no player control during an interrupted dribble. Doesn't sound like an interrupted dribble to me ("one hand passes the ball up the court"). Quote:
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Dribble, Or Interrupted Dribble, It Can't Be Both At The Same Time ...
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4-15-1: A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times. You can't have your cake, and eat it too. |
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In My Humble Opinion ...
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Or do we need a new definition for an uninterrupted dribble. |
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A1 pushes the ball towards the floor as a regular dribble, then, he trips over his teammate before he can grab it again and he falls out of bounds. Are you calling him OOB? More importantly, if the same action (as the OP) occurred in the middle of the court: A1 trying to dribble around B1 pushes the ball ahead to the left of his defender and goes the other direction around B1. B2 sees the ball and starts to grab it. A1 requests a timeout? Your call? |
Circular Logic ...
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Still, to me, the original post seems like it's not an interrupted dribble. Maybe we have to use that circular logic, that I really, really hate to use, asking the question, "Would you grant a timeout?", to help us decide whether, or not, its a dribble, or an interrupted dribble? Man, I even hate typing those words. |
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As I said...
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