Here we go again!!!!

BillyMac · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:56am

"Water under the bridge. This is a new game coach."

MathReferee · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:43am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Water under the bridge. This is a new game coach."

This was my line of thinking as well.

Indianaref · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:07am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Water under the bridge. This is a new game coach."

+1, I was thinking the same thing while reading Jeff's op

MD Longhorn · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:04am

Had you before a couple of times, right?

Possibly - I work a lot of games and don't remember everyone.

I was T'd up both times, right?

I don't know - like I said, I work a lot of games. I definitely don't memorize who got called for what. This is a new game.

I didn't understand the second T at all. What was that about?

Coach, we're not going to discuss previous games at all. This is a new game.

deecee · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:21am

The whole conversation sounded passive aggressive and childish. Of course he knew you worked other games. Of course he knew he was T'd up. And finally he knew why got that second T.

1. Yup
2. Yup
3. I don't talk about the past

Rooster · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:51am

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Originally Posted by deecee

The whole conversation sounded passive aggressive and childish. Of course he knew you worked other games. Of course he knew he was T'd up. And finally he knew why got that second T.

1. Yup
2. Yup
3. I don't talk about the past

#1 "Yep, good to see you again" as professionally as possible and using Dalton's "Be nice" principle.
I see #3 as inflammatory. The "Water under the bridge" tack would be a good one here.

JRut, did he say anything during this game that you would thump another coach in another game? I'm not saying you should have as I was not there, but how'd you feel about hitting the ignore button on him? I'm not sure I could restrain myself, short leash and all.

Rich · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:53am

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Originally Posted by Rooster

#1 "Yep, good to see you again" as professionally as possible and using Dalton's "Be nice" principle.
I see #3 as inflammatory. The "Water under the bridge" tack would be a good one here.

JRut, did he say anything during this game that you would thump another coach in another game? I'm not saying you should have as I was not there, but how'd you feel about hitting the ignore button on him? I'm not sure I could restrain myself, short leash and all.

I love how you quote a Patrick Swayze B movie as some kind of principle on how people should act.

Seriously, I do.

Rooster · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:57am

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Originally Posted by Rich

I love how you quote a Patrick Swayze B movie as some kind of principle on how people should act.

Seriously, I do.

Only because of the video that was recently embedded in one of our other discussions. Take out the movie reference and the "Be nice" principle is not a bad one to have. I've heard it in a lot of places and from a lot of mentors before I even knew it was in a movie. YMMV, I guess.

JRutledge · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:02pm

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Originally Posted by Rooster

#1 "Yep, good to see you again" as professionally as possible and using Dalton's "Be nice" principle.
I see #3 as inflammatory. The "Water under the bridge" tack would be a good one here.

JRut, did he say anything during this game that you would thump another coach in another game? I'm not saying you should have as I was not there, but how'd you feel about hitting the ignore button on him? I'm not sure I could restrain myself, short leash and all.

I do not like ignoring coaches as a basic philosophy. But I feel like I am in a damned if I do, damned if I don't, moment.

He was just an annoyance. He would debate with the Pope if he came to him and said "Jesus loves you son." I did feel better ignoring him though. I just let him run his mouth about nothing and that is how I responded, with nothing.

I think he figured it out and is why he said what he did at the end of the game. But that is just my take.

Peace

Adam · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think he figured it out and is why he said what he did at the end of the game. But that is just my take.

Peace

I missed it, what did he say at the end of the game?

billyu2 · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:23pm

In most cases, you simply cannot reason with these types of coaches. They have firmly established reputations of being annoying, distracting and sarcastic. Ignoring them, trying to appease them or beating around the bush in response to their "innocent" questions does nothing to put them in their place and allows them the feeling they can continue to behave the way they do. It's the right thing for an official to have an "okay, it's a new game attitude." But if the coach doesn't have that same attitude, things are likely to start right after the opening tip, or, in Rut's case even before the game starts. We have a few of those coaches in our area and I have found, at least for me, it works best to deal with them directly, clearly and quickly. For example, if that coach is going to carry over what happened in the previous game, then I'm going to address his concern right now. "Coach, the rule allows you to coach your players within the coaching box. It does not allow you to coach, instruct or criticize the officials. You violated that rule. That rule will be enforced today as well." e-o-d.