Yeah ... both videos were unnecessarily long to get the point across to us. Re the last... harsh...

No doubt. I felt like a cat following a laser pointer.

In your clip of the first T, blue looks like they started getting chippy because they were getting beat, right before the T there was a big blue push up top that probably should have been called. It just kind of escalated from there. W23 looks like he plays with a chip, which is fine, but it backfires sometimes. This one makes the second one make more sense. You have a blow out game that has already gotten chippy, the officials weren't going to let a fight break out, so whack W23 and send him packing when he starts barking the second time. I don't have a problem with it. It really depends on what was said on the second one, especially if he threatened anyone or called someone a name.

That's really interesting - and surprising - to me, Bob, since both terms are in the books and entail doing different things with the recipient of the action word.

Yes -- involving whether the individual must leave the gym.

But, some acts impose a state-issued (i.e., not covered in the rules book) suspension -- and that can only be for what the state by-laws call an "ejection" -- so we are to use that term in the state report when applicable.

Sorry everybody.This was video from a parent standing on the very top row of the bleachers.

I bet initially that was pretty painful. Both for officials and getting clock personnel to operate it properly. Do you guys play by NCAA or FED rules?

California (at least SoCal) is FED and it wasn't or isn't painful. NY state uses shot clock but the difference between the two is that SoCal we do a full reset on ANY kick ball (at least as of 2011, when I left the state) and in NY its a reset to 15 on ANY kick ball violation where the shot clock is at 14 or less.

Its not painful at all as long as the host school provides a competent shot clock operator and all of Cal is Fed.In fact it very rarely is an issue.