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OKREF Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:41pm

Video Request Arizona/Oregon (Video)
 
If it's possible thanks.

Block/Charge at the 11:11 mark of the 2nd half.

Called a block. Thoughts on this.

Rob1968 Fri Feb 07, 2014 01:55am

Please, if someone would post a video clip of 14:59, 1st half, also.
A block/charge call by Dave Hall, that I found quite perplexing.
Thanks in advance.

AremRed Fri Feb 07, 2014 02:46am

Some of you may be able to browse to the plays here: ESPN3 -- Arizona vs. Oregon

Rob1968 Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 921644)
Some of you may be able to browse to the plays here: ESPN3 -- Arizona vs. Oregon

Unfortunately, my internet supplier doesn't allow me to do that.

Toren Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:47am

Block


Block

Rich Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:50am

I thought both were correct calls based on the NCAA rule change.

FWIW, both were shown in the highlights shown on Olbermann last night and I went back and watched both a second time.

APG Fri Feb 07, 2014 04:14pm

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ROppkMiwDaE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/KiUqvwiollQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Raymond Fri Feb 07, 2014 04:26pm

1) Is now a block at the NCAA-Men's level. If it is even close, they want a block.

2) Defender was there in time and outside the arc; then turns his upper body into the shooter, which I think gave the Lead the impression that he moved.

Welpe Fri Feb 07, 2014 04:42pm

I'm glad I'm just a lowly HS official when it comes to plays like this. :)

JRutledge Fri Feb 07, 2014 04:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 921777)
1) Is now a block at the NCAA-Men's level. If it is even close, they want a block.

I think that is a charge. Very close, but I think he is there. And I would still default to a charge on a play that close. Charges stop offensive players from going head strong into defenders. Then again that is me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 921777)
2) Defender was there in time and outside the arc; then turns his upper body into the shooter, which I think gave the Lead the impression that he moved.

I agree.

Peace

amusedofficial Sat Feb 08, 2014 03:29am

In the first, I'm seeing a block, and I don't need no stinking rule changes to see it. But I've been wrong before.

Note that the C also went up with the call, but deferred to the L, which would seem to take the theory the defender "gave the Lead the impression that he moved" out of the equation. Maybe C swallowed the whistle to avoid a blarge.

johnny d Sat Feb 08, 2014 09:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by amusedofficial (Post 921836)

Note that the C also went up with the call, but deferred to the L, which would seem to take the theory the defender "gave the Lead the impression that he moved" out of the equation.

Really, how so? Not sure how the C having/not having a whistle on the play changes what the L thought he saw.

zm1283 Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:08am

I think both are PC fouls even with the rule change.

Have I mentioned I hate the rule change?

OKREF Sat Feb 08, 2014 02:24pm

I think they are both offensive fouls. At least in the games I'm doing they are.

JetMetFan Sat Feb 08, 2014 05:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 921795)
I think that is a charge. Very close, but I think he is there. And I would still default to a charge on a play that close. Charges stop offensive players from going head strong into defenders. Then again that is me.



I agree.

Peace

I agree with Jeff and I go back to his line from last month: this is what NCAAM wants. Let them deal with it ;)


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