Need some help...
 

I may have kicked something Saturday after I ran an assistant. Since I am just coming back I don't have current books and cannot find the old ones. I know that the head coach can select the person to shoot the free throws for a technical and since there was an ejection for not knowing when to stop complaining there obviously were two technicals given to the assistant.

1) If the HC wants someone on the bench to take some of the shots can he substitute before the shots are taken for the first technical?
2) If not, can he substitute after the first of the two shots (substitutes can enter before the administration of the last free throw for a foul)?
3) Can the coach have one player shoot the first free throw and a different player shoot the second when shooting FTs or a T?

I you could, please give me a rule cite. We allowed a sub to enter and that player shot the FTs for the second T. My partner (very new) and I debated this afterwards and I think I got it right. But it is not beyond the realm of possibilities that I messed that up.

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.

8-3
The free throws awarded because of a technical foul may be attempted by any player of the offended team, including an eligible substitute or designated starter. The coach or captain shall designate the free thrower(s).

Edit:

2003-2004 Rules Interp

SITUATION 13: Technical foul shooter A1 attempts the first free throw and substitute A6 attempts the second. RULING: Legal. Technical foul free throws may be attempted by any player or eligible substitute. Therefore, two different players may attempt the throws. (8-3)

In HS, any eligible* player or sub can shoot any of the FTs for a T. So, you could have had 4 different players, all of whom were on the bench to start, shoot the FTs here.

* -- Note that if a player has left the game and the clock hasn't run, s/he's not eligible to reenter.

Not allowing a substitute to enter until just before the last FT only applies to PERSONAL fouls.

Sorry, don't have time to look it up but I assure you, that's the rule.

I found the current rule book online in PDF format. Even though I couldn't save it to my computer I did bookmark it. Thanks to tjones1 I found the cite.

Glad to see I still have a mind like a steel trap. :D

Too bad it is often slapped shut :eek:

Bob, are you saying here, for instance, if A6 replaces A1 for the sole purpose of shooting the T(s), that A1 now cannot re-enter until the clock has run next (after all the T's are shot and ball put back into play)? A7 could replace A6, but A1 could not, correct? I knew the rule, but somehow never thought about it applying in this situation where the HC may want a guy to come out just so a very good ft shooter could come in just for the T.

That is correct.

Same ruling for NCAA?

I Want to Check You for Ticks -- Brad Paisley
 

"Must 'Sit a Tick', but Doesn't Have to 'Play a Tick'"

3-3-4 - "A player who has been replaced...shall not re-enter before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his/her replacement."

(tho' I'm not Bob...maybe await his more adroit response)

Like I said I knew that rule, just never thought about it in dealing with multiple T's, where different players could be coming in and out.

Give That Man A Cigar ...
 

Current? PDF? Can you copy, and paste? Please post the link.

No, no he can't and please don't ask again.

Confused In Connecticut ???
 

Why not (he asked politely)? And feel free to private message me if you wish.

Me too:)

Its not obvious there were two T's on the assistant unless you actually whacked him twice...one T is all you need for an ejection(flagrant).

Copyright issues. The Fed is protective of their copyright and does not want their publications freely distributed. I'm not sure one can even obtain a legit copy of a PDF anymore from the Federation.

They are available however on Kindle and if you have an Arbitersports.com account.

Let's Be Careful Out There ...
 

Thanks. Plus, there are some "bigtime" malware issues on the few that I found on the internet.

In NCAAW, the same player must shoot both FTs from a technical foul. That player is chosen by the HC or team captain and can be a substitute. Any player who is substituted for cannot reenter until after the game clock has been properly started. (They must "sit a tick.")

I believe that the rules in NCAAM are the same, but I don't have that book handy.

Same for Men. I was going to mention this, but you beat me to it! :)