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Adam Sat Feb 01, 2014 06:15pm

I prefer waiting and jogging just a slight bit faster while the pg brings the ball up. Cheating doesn't do me any good on this play.

Freddy Sat Feb 01, 2014 07:04pm

Bob x 2
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 920905)
I question that assumption and I know it's drilled to NOT do it at all the camps I've attended.

Ditto.

Those who leave early around here betray their propensity to not have to hustle upcourt as trail.
Leave early = more time to walk and look lazy.
Albeit it is sometimes true that for trail to be trail it mandates a walk, particularly with a team who walks the ball upcourt.

Mregor Sun Feb 02, 2014 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 920908)
I prefer waiting and jogging just a slight bit faster while the pg brings the ball up. Cheating doesn't do me any good on this play.

Yep.

Sharpshooternes Mon Feb 03, 2014 03:08am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 920902)
You're correct. Thank you for calling me out on my error. :) -- 9.2.10A.
Though violating the boundary plane by the defender after a warning had been previously issued (without contacting the ball) IS a team technical -- 10-1-5c.
Repeated violation of this is (even without contacting the ball) merits a player technical -- 10-3-5d.

So let me make sure I get this straight. Team A throwin in all situations.
B1 reaches across the plane and is called for DOG warning. Later B1reaches through the plane and team B is assessed a team TF. Later still B1 reaches through the plane and is assessed a player TF.

Next scenario. Team A throwin. B1 reaches through plane and receives DOG warning. Later B2 reaches through the plane and a team TF is assessed. Later still B3 reaches through the plane and B3 is assessed a Personal TF.

Is that right?

Camron Rust Mon Feb 03, 2014 03:14am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 921057)
So let me make sure I get this straight. Team A throwin in all situations.
B1 reaches across the plane and is called for DOG warning. Later B1reaches through the plane and team B is assessed a team TF. Later still B1 reaches through the plane and is assessed a player TF.

Next scenario. Team A throwin. B1 reaches through plane and receives DOG warning. Later B2 reaches through the plane and a team TF is assessed. Later still B3 reaches through the plane and B3 is assessed a Personal TF.

Is that right?

No.

The repeated part is not about different points of the game...it is a about continuing to do so time after time.

Nevadaref Mon Feb 03, 2014 03:53am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920876)
I'm quite sure there is something in the rule book about a defender reaching over the throw-in plane and touching a released pass.

Legal in NFHS (had it in a game on Friday night), but illegal in NCAA.

Sharpshooternes Mon Feb 03, 2014 05:57am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 921058)
No.

The repeated part is not about different points of the game...it is a about continuing to do so time after time.

So right in a row, not with other legal throwing in between? So in theory you could have multiple team techs for plane violations throughout the game and no player techs?

BillyMac Mon Feb 03, 2014 07:09am

Who's On First ???
 
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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 921065)
So right in a row, not with other legal throwing in between? So in theory you could have multiple team techs for plane violations throughout the game and no player techs?

Since the warning, and then the technical fouls, are charged, and recorded, by the official scorekeeper, to the team, not to individual players, I would have no idea, and the official scorekeeper would have no record, of which individual players were involved in previous violations, especially if some of the violations were called by my partner.

bob jenkins Mon Feb 03, 2014 09:00am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 921057)
So let me make sure I get this straight. Team A throwin in all situations.
B1 reaches across the plane and is called for DOG warning. Later B1reaches through the plane and team B is assessed a team TF. Later still B1 reaches through the plane and is assessed a player TF.

Next scenario. Team A throwin. B1 reaches through plane and receives DOG warning. Later B2 reaches through the plane and a team TF is assessed. Later still B3 reaches through the plane and B3 is assessed a Personal TF.

Is that right?

What's that? ;)

You're only going to get a 10-3-5 T if someone is either just clueless or trying to make a mockery of the game or drawing attention to himself, etc.

DrPete Mon Feb 03, 2014 09:52am

I like it when you guys quote rules to go along with your responses. I just learned a detail that the defender can reach over the boundary plane after the ball is released by the thrower. I never picked up on that nuance of the rule until I read it again along with this discussion.

BillyMac Mon Feb 03, 2014 05:47pm

Copy And Paste ...
 
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Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 921082)
I like it when you guys quote rules to go along with your responses.

It's getting harder and harder to do so since the NFHS has made internet copies of it's rulebooks, and casebooks, with the ability to copy, and paste, sections, unavailable, even to members.

I'm presently copying, and pasting, sections from a 2011-12 rulebook, and a 2011-12 casebook, and I'm not sure how much longer these old pdf books will be relevant.

Typing from the paper books? Fuhgeddaboudit.


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