Did I handle correctly ?
 

Working JV game with familiar partner. The game is very close (Team A down by 1). Team B shooting FT , A1 rebounds the ball in paint near FT line, Coach A calls timeout which I give (5 seconds left in game). I point to the endline for throw-in, my partner acknowleges my gesture and I go to table to report. After reporting I go to table to check on T/O situation and remind them to watch me for starting the clock (table personnel reminded me at start of game they weren't the "normal" table people and were filling in).

I go to both teams at first horn and indicate the throw in to be at the end line. Team A coach is very upset b/c he had drawn up the play for throw in just about 10 feet off of mid court. I look over and my partner is talking with a school official and hadn't moved to the end line (gym was about empty b/c of Varsity game in next town) so.................. the coach thought that was where the ball was to be for throw in. I explained to the coach that I had indicated the throw in spot but I would discuss with Team B coach. Team B coach had no problem moving it to where my partner was (he thought it was close to mid-court as well). Should I have moved the throw in to the appropriate area or handled it as I did ?

My partner was very apologetic and said "lesson learned" but it really was not a fun situation.

Refk

You were the new T in a 2-official crew?

If so, you are still the trail and administering the in-bounds after the timeout. Report the timeout, get the ball, and go to the throw-in spot with the ball.

If not, you need to tell your partner where the throw-in is. You granted the timeout, it's your decision.

On top of that, during the "reporting the timeout" process, we're going to each bench, grabbing an assistant, and specifically telling an assistant where the throw in spot is -- he can pass that info on to the head coach.

Is that something you make a habit of every timeout even at the Varisty level? I've never thought to provide that unless they requested, although V coaches are prob more inclined to know to glance at the referee holding the ball. Or is this just an end of game clarification you provide on an "important" inbound....?

If it's not an obvious throw-in spot, we do it. This timeout qualifies regardless of the time of the game.

I also let the coaches know on the first horn if A can "run the end line."

The way I read it he would not be the T...when the ball is put in play he would be the L. When the rebound was controlled, he acknowledged and granted a TO request AND pointed to the throw-in spot. After reporting the TO made sure the table was aware of everything. Sounds like to me he did everything he needed to do except maybe go tell his partner to get his tail back to the throw-in spot and quit yacking.

Maybe I am reading it wrong. Around here, unless it is a really loud gym we do not tell an assistant on each team where the throw-in will take place as we have already announced that to our partner when the whistle is blown. It's not my fault if none of the 5 coaches on the bench are paying attention.

On a Similar Note...
 

Similar note, when an inbounder can run the endline coming out of a timeout I have had coaches request we adminster the inbound on the opposite side from where the new T had been prepared to give the ball. I've always allowed it to happen and never heard any disputes, any reason to believe that is incorrect?

This isn't clear, upon reread.

If he's the new T post-rebound, he stays the T. If he's the new L, he stays the L.

No problem doing that. I've never been asked, though.

I was the new lead, and had indicated to my partner where throw-in was but I think he lost focus a bit. I left out, while discussing T/O situation with table that Team A assistant asked me where the ball would be for the throw in and I told him

I feel that after experiencing this that it is my responsibility to ensure "everyone is on same page" and my partner is where he should be.

RefK

It's happened twice and both times they had a player step out and threw across the end line before inbounding. I guess it's just the way they drew it up on the bench and didn't trust the team to flip in the play in their minds haha.

Cool. The key thing is to make sure your partner goes to the spot with the ball.

Team A makes a basket then calls time out. When you administer on the end line to B after the time out and they can "run the end line" where can you administer at at where can't you? Do you always start them near and end line and have them move after it is at their disposal? Can they request the ball midway between the lane line and the sideline? What if they want the ball right under neath the basket (I have always made them move out)?

Personally, I would stand where I would normally administer the throw in, in a situation where he couldn't run. As I said earlier I would switch sides if it was requested. But if the team wants the ball directly under the basket or antyhing along those lines let him stand there and bounce it to him. That's just how I would handle, if there is something in the book that designates otherwise please correct me!

Just to clarify this is only in a made basket, allowed to run scenario!

The more I think about it, there may be no reason to even switch sides if requested, let the inbounder stand where he wants the ball and bounce it to him from where you were prepared to administer. My only worry here is out of context it could appear like the old rec ball, lazy, bounce across so you and your partner don't have to switch when in fact it is a different scenario.

The only thing the book says is "administer at the nearest spot." Since they can run, does it really matter?

And, if you switch sides because the offense wants you to switch, what do you do if the defense then complains that they had a defense set to force the ball into a specific corner?

Most places don't allow you to bounce across; and I'd never give the ball to the player in the lane extended.

Both times I've had it happened it was still during the timeout and I went and told the other team. I did think to myself what if they broke the huddles and asked. As Bob said they can run across anyway what's the big deal, just a "common sense and fair play" type scenario I suppose.

If you told the team A assistant the throw-in location and he didn't tell his head coach, it's his own fault. Put the ball in where indicated originally. I'm sure the coach will pay better attention next time.

By rule, the team has the entire endline. So the team member may begin anywhere along the endline. It would be improper for an official to insist that a player begin the throw-in at any particular location. There is no rules justification for that.
This isn't a designated spot throw-in.

I agree from a rules standpoint, but from a mechanics standpoint I'm not administering the ball while he's in the lane extended. He can go exactly where he wants as soon as I deliver the ball.

Nope, any location desired by the team is okay.

Not worry about such a complaint because BY RULE the offense can go anywhere along the endline they wish. The defense needs to be prepared to defend the throw-in from any and all such locations.

In those areas the administering official needs to move. Hopefully that isn't a physical challenge to the officiating crew.

In this instance you should. The player has every right to throw the ball from there under these circumstances. Nothing in the book states that he can't start there too!

This is all academic, of course, since in 27 years of officiating I've never had someone ask for me to move to a different "spot."

Left Hash Mark
 

Only on extra point attempts . . . oops, I've got the Super Bowl on my mind . . .

Since BY RULE the team has the right to execute the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.

I disagree. All the rule grants the player is the right to make the throwin from anywhere along the line. There is nothing in the rule that says anything about where they must or get to start such a throwin. It just gives them the right to move elsewhere.

Camron,
You know the guiding principle that whatever is not prohibited by the rules is allowed. So barring a rule which prohibits the player from getting the ball in a certain location, we need to permit it.
What's the big deal? Just throw him the ball.

Despite this, it's the type of play that leads to long, protracted discussions whenever it comes up in an association meeting.

That's the fault of the person running the meeting, no?

Being right isn't always the right thing to do.

No reason to bring up other situations here. I'm sticking to the topic at hand.

This really is academic. If the player is in the lane extended, I'm moving him. If he insists on staying there after I try to move him, I probably would toss him the ball. Wouldn't happen and won't happpen.

While I agree with you on the throw in issue at hand (I'd have no problem bouncing it to a player who wanted to start behind the basket), your advice to call a T on the team supported by unruly spectators isn't comparable.

While "it can be supported by the rules", it can also be career suicide. Further, not calling it is also supported by the rules. The rules very clearly give us discretion and a strong warning to use caution when going that route.

Both are probably once-in-a-career situations, but only one really has a chance to sabotage a career.

Mechanics ...
 

IAABO mechanics, and, maybe, the old NFHS mechanics, told us never to administer the ball to an inbounding player under a basket (in the lane).

Maybe the rules allow for a "run the endline", under the basket, inbound administration, but the mechanics don't, so I'm not doing it.

If I ever administered the ball to an inbounding player under a basket, it would be just my luck that the player would throw the ball so that it hit, out of bounds, on the back side of the backboard, or hit the edge of the backboard so that the pass went out of bounds, or worse, was intercepted. Then the coach, would have good cause to get "all over me".

No thanks. I've never administered the ball to an inbounding player under a basket, designated spot, or otherwise, and, as God is my witness, I never will.