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Rich Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:15pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 920627)
Tally another vote for PC. I like watching Higgins probably more than any other NCAA official, but he missed this one. It happens.

If you're a Twitter guy, follow @JohnHigginsHair -- it's pretty funny.

zm1283 Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:26pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 920638)
If you're a Twitter guy, follow @JohnHigginsHair -- it's pretty funny.

Just followed it. That is pretty funny.

Early favorite:

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Nothing but flare on that block call. Flare and sculpted bis and tris

HokiePaul Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:32pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 920613)
Some of us around here are not as experienced, and therefore do not find these calls (even when slowed down on video) to be so easy. I just ask that you and others avoid making those that have questions feel stupid for not believing things to be as simple.

For the record, I'm not one of these "experienced" officials that you talk about. I'm not trying to make anyone feel stupid.

JRutledge Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:54pm

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 920648)
For the record, I'm not one of these "experienced" officials that you talk about. I'm not trying to make anyone feel stupid.

Many people do not have the make up or the ability to take on direct criticism.
Peace

Adam Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 920593)
Possibly the first Don Quixote reference on this forum. Nice:D

I almost forgot you're new here. :)

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920595)
I believe one of our esteemed moderators has an avatar for that.

Who are you calling esteemed?

Adam Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:41pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 920568)
By the way, and this isn't for JRut... let's cut the hyperbole about this and other calls here being the "easiest call in the World" (or something like that). If they were that easy they wouldn't be posted here for discussion in the first place. I actually find comments like that to be insulting.

A bit of advice, take that stuff in stride.

edit: Feel free to contact a moderator if you think we've missed a personal "attack."

Camron Rust Thu Jan 30, 2014 08:55pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 920574)
"Lateral" movement (in terms of the rule) is related to the movement of the dribbler. The rule book doesn't stop at "the guard may move laterally or obliquely", but continues by saying "...to maintain position".

In this case, the defender did not "maintain position", as his movement sideways caused him to be closer to the dribbler than he originally was when he gained LGP.

So again... what did the dribbler do wrong? He tried going around the defender after the defender had gained LGP, as the book states he must do.


Here is a way you can think about this to perhaps more clearly picture what lateral movement really is....

Put an imaginary wall directly between the defender and the dribbler based on their positions....not the direction the dribbler is moving and without regard to the direction either player is facing. That wall is constantly shifting as the player's move.

As long as the defender is not moving into/through that wall at the time of contact, they are moving laterally or obliquely away and can't commit a block (assuming they had obtained LGP).

If the dribbler is quick enough to get to the side of the defender, the wall will be to the defender's side and a sideways movement by the defender relative to the former positions would now be into that wall and into the dribbler....thus a block. If the defender moves quick enough such that the dribbler is the one coming through the wall, then it is a PC.

BryanV21 Thu Jan 30, 2014 09:19pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 920668)
A bit of advice, take that stuff in stride.

edit: Feel free to contact a moderator if you think we've missed a personal "attack."

I didn't feel attacked, as I wasn't going to assume the intentions of those that wrote it. I was just pointing out how that could be taken.

johnny d Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:43pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 920595)
I believe one of our esteemed moderators has an avatar for that.

I don't pay all that much attention to the avatars or the quotes and titles people use here other than what they say in their actual posts.


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