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Rich Thu Jan 30, 2014 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.

rockyroad Thu Jan 30, 2014 03:38pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 920619)
Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.

Agree 100%.

APG Thu Jan 30, 2014 03:40pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

Tell GM that someone's got to go...or the whole section is going.

Adam Thu Jan 30, 2014 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 920619)
Same. I'd get game management. I wouldn't whack the team for the behavior of some students in the bleachers.

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 920622)
Tell GM that someone's got to go...or the whole section is going.

Agreed. The only difference is it wouldn't take me a few seconds to get the reference.

j51969 Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

We all know the emotion that word brings into a room. The havec that would ensue following it would be legendary. If you think you can sneak in two free throws in between the complete a$$ beatings that are happening all over the gym; you are good!

JRutledge Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

I think the person that said that would have bigger problems than whether we gave them a T or not.

Again, not in the same ballpark as the OP situation in any way.

Peace

Adam Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 920642)
I think the person that said that would have bigger problems than whether we gave them a T or not.

Again, not in the same ballpark as the OP situation in any way.

Peace

It's not even the right comparison, if you want to try to make such a thing.

CountTheBasket Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 920611)
What would the reaction be if the student section were chanting the N word?

I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.

Rich Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 920651)
I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.

We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."

CountTheBasket Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:55pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 920652)
We said that all the time in high school. I'd probably laugh. Actually, the chant is, "A rope. A tree. All we need is a referee."

Haha me as well, that is the only time I ever heard that in my life though. I went to high school outside of Philadelphia and this game was somewhere in Central PA....I remember on the way home us all saying "these country kids are crazy!!!"

j51969 Thu Jan 30, 2014 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by CountTheBasket (Post 920651)
I know earlier I said I would ignore any fan chant and allow game managment to hear it and handle it on their own but I guess I didn't consider the extreme. That being said, I cannot imagine a scenario where the game managment isn't all over something like this before I even can turn to look at them. Still wouldn't T tho, just get the offender out, entire section if needed.

Just to throw another angle out there, what if a chant was directed towards you as the official? Would you acknowledge (get game managment, or T if you feel that route is appropriate) in that situation. This discussion reminded me of a state playoff game I played in when I was in HS, opponents student section chanted "A rope, a tree, hang the referee!" for a solid 20-30 secs.

I do nothing. I have on rare occasion acknowledged a few clever one's at a time-out. When cell phones became more popular I heard one kid say "Hey Ref, I found your cell phone and it has 3 missed calls!" I looked at him and said, "That's was a good one";)

BillyMac Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 920659)
I have on rare occasion acknowledged a few clever one's at a time-out.

"Where's your seeing eye dog?"

deecee Thu Jan 30, 2014 05:13pm

The point I was trying to make is when is enough enough? and Do you really consider racism to be something that is judged on a level of mild to severe and only what you would consider racist?

To me its like and OOB call, either their foot is on the line or it isn't. There is no grey.

just another ref Thu Jan 30, 2014 06:53pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 920643)
It's not even the right comparison, if you want to try to make such a thing.

I think maybe the point is that most of us would still not call a T on the crowd, even if the OP was carried to a greater extreme, which the later example clearly is.

deecee Thu Jan 30, 2014 07:11pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 920673)
I think maybe the point is that most of us would still not call a T on the crowd, even if the OP was carried to a greater extreme, which the later example clearly is.

When I played in HS we had a player who got drunk during school, and got caught. He got suspended for 3 days and missed a game. His first game back we are playing on the road at a rival. First time he goes to the line (and all other times thereafter) the crowd chanted "Alcoholic"

Even as his teammate, I thought it was clever and funny. We ended up winning.


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