Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 920205)

Player is holding the ball with his left foot in front of his right. His left foot is in the top of the key circle. His right foot is not. The ball is being held very closely to the circle but not actually over it. The coach requests time out. Is the ball put in play on the sideline due to the ball not being in the circle or is it put in play on the end line because the foot in the circle causes the ball to have "in the circle status"?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 920207)

Well, if he shot from there, would it be a 2- or a 3-point shot? (rhetorical)

that's how I'd rule on it.

Originally Posted by Lotto (Post 920209)

I'd use the ball location to determine the spot. Since OP says that the ball was not over the circle, I'd put the throw-in at the spot on the sideline nearest the ball.

Originally Posted by MathReferee (Post 920212)

I like this rationale. But after thinking about it a little more and following this same logic, if there is just a toe on the line, but the rest of the players body and the ball are outside the circle then I am putting that ball in play on the sideline. So, I am thinking that location of the ball is more my determining factor and when in doubt, I am putting in play on the end line.

Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 920228)

What about going with the majority of the player's body?

I mean, if most of his/her body is outside the arc, then the ball is inbounded on the sideline. And if most of his/her body is inside the arc, then the ball is inbounded on the endline.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 920231)

Ball location is defined specifically in the book, otherwise I'd agree with this.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 920224)

How is ball location defined in the rules (note, it has little to do with it's actual physical location.)

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 920205)

Player is holding the ball with his left foot in front of his right. His left foot is in the top of the key circle. His right foot is not. The ball is being held very closely to the circle but not actually over it. The coach requests time out. Is the ball put in play on the sideline due to the ball not being in the circle or is it put in play on the end line because the foot in the circle causes the ball to have "in the circle status"?

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 920331)

That was an excellent question Jeremy. I am going to vote with the others and say ball location. Touching the circle puts the ball in the key. TI on end line. Never thought about it that closely before. Thanks.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 920340)

I had the question just by luck as I had it happen last night at the end of the 3rd overtime. Defensive Coach was not happy with our spot.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 920354)

So did you get it right?

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 920382)

If you have to pick nits, it goes on the end line. Easy enough.

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 920420)

Do it both ways and coaches won't complain.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 920426)

Do you mean to do it one way and be consistent on both ends of the court throughout the game?

Originally Posted by River Ref (Post 920434)

The whole point of where is the ball (in or outside of the arc)and where to administer,is if the ball is awarded baseline instead of sideline then possibly the offense has just had major advancement down the floor for free because of us.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 920354)

So did you get it right?

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 920380)

Did the coach know where the spot was before going into the huddle for the TO?

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 920420)

Exactly. If it's close, put it on the endline. Coaches have tons of plays designed for endline throw-ins. Do it both ways and coaches won't complain.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 920605)

Yes, Partner granted timeout from the T. He told me it was underneath.



Yes I took the ball to the OOB spot. This is when the Coach objected.



One would think so. However on the next play the other team requested a timeout with the ball on the wing very close to the diagonal line. My partner, who was once again the T due to a foul that possession, ruled the ball to be underneath. Coach, who was now on offense, complained it should have been on the side.

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 920427)

Duh.

Do "it" (put the ball on the endline if it's close) "both ways" (be consistent) and coaches won't complain.