Officials demanding coach’s suspension for bumping ref even after video shows otherwi
 

I have not seen this posted yet.


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Ye old, "you need to let the kids determine the game," argument.

I guess they made ALL their foul shots and layups. :rolleyes:

My question is why the official even over there at that time of the game? The game is over, get off the court.

I do not see a deliberate bump, but the coach is saying something to the official. Not sure what, but saying something. So he is not totally clean possibly if the officials has reported the comments. But the official should have never been there in the first place.

Peace

That was my first thought as well... There is no reason for us to be over there after the game is over and teams are shaking hands.

In some areas, officials are expected to go to the table to verify the final score. Maybe this is one of those areas.

I am sure the coach said something completely ignorant in conjuctjion with what was reported (nothing none of us haven't heard before). He didn't touch this guy, and is clearly looking for a path around him. The coach held up in order to not bump into him. The official couldn't get out to there fast enough, and wasn't watching where he was going. This Tucci guy is a douche, and clearly setting himself up for a law suit. Tucci has told the high school athletic governing body that the incident has "affected me horribly. I have a very uncomfortable feeling as soon as I step on the floor". Looks like it's time to retire.

And still stupid if required. Get off the damn floor. Nothing good can come out of doing what he did in this video.

Peace

Quote from the story:

"While Bisignani can be seen expressing his displeasure to the official on the tape (Tucci told the WPIAL that Bisignani shouted, "you'll never work another GCC game again; you need to let the kids determine the game”)"

So does not the governing body there not have the ability to suspend the coach a few games if they deem it necessary? Why penalize the entire team here if they gave fulfilled all other requirements to enter the playoffs?

My feelings are similar. After looking at the video and reading an article about what happened, I would be more inclined to suspend the ref than the coach or team. He is making a big deal out of nothing.

I agree that it doesn't appear that the coach intended to bump him. He did, however, intentionally get within a few inches of the official in order to threaten him and in that process inadvertently bumped the official when the official tried to leave.

So don't suspended him for the bump; suspend him for threatening an official.

(Yes, the official shouldn't have been there. That doesn't give the coach carte blanche.)

No they don't...

"We have no jurisdiction over personnel at schools," WPIAL executive director Tim O'Malley told the Post-Gazette, placing Bisignani's team on probation through 2014-15 and recommending he attend a coaching seminar. "That's a district issue. But we do have jurisdiction over schools. Greensburg Central can do what they want. But if they choose not to follow our directive, then they will be kept out of the postseason."

I found that whole statement a little confusing -- not knowing how PA structures it's "athletics association" or exactly what the WPIAL is.

Coaches and players are going to say things "in the heat of the moment". We've all seen/heard it before. We're taught to ignore statements, which is what this coach made. I don't know about PA rules, but something tells me this coach wouldn't be able to blackball the official from working any games in that league. So who cares about what he said?

Looks like a case of an official that's too thin-skinned. The coach clearly did not intend to bump him, and the official should have just ignored the coach's statement and left the court.

1. Get rid of the requirement to physically go to scorers table to verify final score. A quick reminder at some point during the 4th QTR to the table (R will make eye contact we are good to go at the final buzzer).

Result:

1. Coaches can loss his Sh!t in the locker room where it belongs.

2. Mr. Tucci can run off the court to his locker room, and is not suffering from post tramactic stress.

What a horrible policy. We are required to confirm, but it doesn't require our actual presence at the table after the final horn.

Do you know what was said? A threat "You'll never..." is not just a statement that can be ignored. Calling an official thin skinned for reacting to that is part of the sportsmanship problem, not the solution.

Not a BB Official however, if after 30 years of officiating anything, this little incident bothers you that much??

("Tucci has told the high school athletic governing body that the incident has "affected me horribly")

Then I have to question your reaction or over-reaction to a ordinary foul.

Without condoning any contact, just maybe, the Coach is right!!!

It's not like the coach threatened the official physically. Like I said, unless coaches in PA really can get an official blackballed by the league, then it's more of an emtpy-threat than anything. And why make a big deal about an empty-threat?

I didn't see the whole game, so the context may be totally different than what I know, but if I put myself in the video I would have just ran off the court and forgot about the entire ordeal. Just another coach complaining about a call/no-call. And in that case, I'd go into the locker room and ask my partners if something was missed.

Incidental contact. Move on.

Around here, and everywhere I have worked, if a coach makes this threat, it's a flagrant T. It doesn't matter how empty that threat is. As far as I know, it's the same for most locations.

That said, I'm not going to be at the table after a game anyway. I know too many officials that, for whatever reason, like to go shake hands with the table crew after the game.

Really? A flagrant T? That seems a bit excessive, but okay.

I've never heard anything like that said, and maybe this is why.

How would you have delt with this? Would you have blown you whistle and given him a post game ejection?

a la baseball?

Not being sarcastic, I am legitimately asking how your area would handle it.

Incidental contact. The coach to me is walking around the official as the official is backing up and away from the table. That being said, get out of dodge after the final whistle. Having to go to the table is ridiculous.

I seriously doubt that there was any such policy in that area, based on the fact that the two partners were standing over by the door waiting for this official. They were headed off and had to stop and wait.

As far as the "bump"...good grief. The official had as mush to do with that contact as the coach did.

I'm not convinced there was any physical contact between the coach and ref based on the video. Seems like there was some awkward steps by the ref and a quick stop by the coach. When the ref turns there is some distance between the two.

I've never had a coach threaten me with the "You'll never work here again" line. I did have a coach threaten to give me a bad rating last year during a game and he earned a T. I didn't really consider a Flagrant T for that threat to be honest. I felt the T was enough.

As far as shaking hands with the table: That's what you do before the game. If you need to thank them later on, do it during a late timeout.

We have to file reports with the state for all technical fouls that involve sportsmanship. I have given a postgame technical before just so I could report it to the state. A coach didn't say anything to us the last several minutes of the game, then when I had to run by his bench on the way off the court he decided to get a shot in, knowing that the game was over. With most other coaches I would have ignored it, but this guy's reputation didn't help him very much.

Something like that. It's all in the paperwork at this point. Have the scorer mark it, and be sure to report it. The second step is more important than the first.

Again, none of this happens if the official gets off the court.

If there was really a bump, or if the comments rose to that level, yes. At least report it to the table.

Film don't lie, Mr. Official.

Welcome to the land of going looking for trouble.

Round here if a t or unsporting foul of any kind has been administered we are asked to stand by the table until both teams have shaken hands and cleared the floor.


IN terms of the video. I'm not seeing a lot. Is the coach clearly not being classy? Sure. Is there an awkward shuffle between two adult men of questionable fitness in tight quarters? Definitely.

I question anything more then that and don't see anything "horrible" here.

I'm scared too...
 

"Tucci has told the high school athletic governing body that the incident has 'affected me horribly. I have a very uncomfortable feeling as soon as I step on the floor.'" :rolleyes:

Me too. Thank you, Mother Nature, for getting my elementary school game canceled tonight. After seeing this video I'm afraid I'd whack every coach that got near me, which is tough since the gym is so small the front legs of the players' chairs are on the playing floor.

I will admit after reading this story, I felt horrible. I have feel uncomfortable everytime I step in and out of my office. I should have gone home........

Coaches bumping officials or making threats to officials is serious business.

It doesn't help us as a group, at all, when an official sticks around, bumps into a coach, and then acts traumatized. Get the he!! off the court, already.

Our litigious society...
 

+1

This does not hurt or help us as a group because most of us will never even know this took place. All it illustrates is that this is why you get off the court after the game.

Peace