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Refk Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:41pm

What to do ?
 
Officiating a boys JV game , ball inbounded from endline into team A's frontcourt . Player A tips the ball on the pass and it goes into the backcourt where my partner (T) calls violation for backcourt. The next dead ball my partner tells us that he blew it and had a brain fart. He asked us what he should have done and we both said that if he knew he made a mistake immediately, then rectify it with an inadvertent whistle or let it go. While driving home he thought that one of us should have gotten involved. I told him that I thought our explanation during the game was appropriate.

Thoughts ?

deecee Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by Refk (Post 919255)
Officiating a boys JV game , ball inbounded from endline into team A's frontcourt . Player A tips the ball on the pass and it goes into the backcourt where my partner (T) calls violation for backcourt. The next dead ball my partner tells us that he blew it and had a brain fart. He asked us what he should have done and we both said that if he knew he made a mistake immediately, then rectify it with an inadvertent whistle or let it go. While driving home he thought that one of us should have gotten involved. I told him that I thought our explanation during the game was appropriate.

Thoughts ?

If he thought he made the wrong call simply make the right on, and change your whistle to an IW. But once the ball is put in play its to late.

bainsey Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:46pm

I had a partner make the same mistake a few years ago. I went to help him immediately, and he changed it to an IW. No complaints.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 20, 2014 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by Refk (Post 919255)
Officiating a boys JV game , ball inbounded from endline into team A's frontcourt . Player A tips the ball on the pass and it goes into the backcourt where my partner (T) calls violation for backcourt. The next dead ball my partner tells us that he blew it and had a brain fart. He asked us what he should have done and we both said that if he knew he made a mistake immediately, then rectify it with an inadvertent whistle or let it go. While driving home he thought that one of us should have gotten involved. I told him that I thought our explanation during the game was appropriate.

Thoughts ?

Sometimes you can just give "a look" that leads the calling official to question the call / initiate the conference.

If you go in initially, you might lead to being asked to go in all times after that, and you don't want to do that.

Camron Rust Mon Jan 20, 2014 02:30pm

Being that you had throwin coverage, you had to be looking at where the ball was tipped in order to know when to have the clock started. You could know that there had never been team control inbounds on the play and would know that he was making a rules error....one that is not uncommon. I've gone to partners on more than one occasion in this case to have a conversation about the rule. If they say they had a catch before it went to the backcourt, end of discussion. If you know a rule is being kicked and you do nothing about it, you kicked it too.

Adam Mon Jan 20, 2014 03:23pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 919289)
Being that you had throwin coverage, you had to be looking at where the ball was tipped in order to know when to have the clock started. You could know that there had never been team control inbounds on the play and would know that he was making a rules error....one that is not uncommon. I've gone to partners on more than one occasion in this case to have a conversation about the rule. If they say they had a catch before it went to the backcourt, end of discussion. If you know a rule is being kicked and you do nothing about it, you kicked it too.

Agreed. I'm moving more towards this way of thinking on this particular play.

Refk Tue Jan 21, 2014 04:18pm

Thanks for the feedback , lesson learned :)

Nevadaref Tue Jan 21, 2014 05:23pm

Partners are on their own with judgment calls, but I will come offer information if someone is misapplying a rule.

egj13 Tue Jan 21, 2014 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by Refk (Post 919255)
Officiating a boys JV game

IMO this signals a good time for a teaching moment...assuming he is a younger official. If that is the case I lean towards blowing the whistle and helping out. I could be convinced the other way too.


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