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JMUplayer Thu Jan 16, 2014 08:36am

Wide Stripe official shirt... any other states mandating use of this?
 
Just curious.....

Is it all about the money and the state is getting some type of kickback?

justacoach Thu Jan 16, 2014 08:46am

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Originally Posted by JMUplayer (Post 918592)
Just curious.....

Is it all about the money and the state is getting some type of kickback?

D'UH!!
Also, it does wonders highlighting your physique

bob jenkins Thu Jan 16, 2014 08:59am

How can they get a kickback on the wide shirt? (Unless there's more to the story -- like it also requires a logo, and they've only licensed the logo to a few vendors)

Rich Thu Jan 16, 2014 09:06am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 918596)
How can they get a kickback on the wide shirt? (Unless there's more to the story -- like it also requires a logo, and they've only licensed the logo to a few vendors)

Well, most of them are requiring a specific shirt with sublimated dye "patches" and the like. A few states are using only one vendor for the shirt.

For now, I think they look goofy, but that would change the more I see the shirts, I guess. I love the wide stripes for college football.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 16, 2014 09:18am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 918597)
Well, most of them are requiring a specific shirt with sublimated dye "patches" and the like. A few states are using only one vendor for the shirt.

I agree with that -- but it has nothing to do with a "wide panel shirt" or anything.

Rich Thu Jan 16, 2014 09:21am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 918601)
I agree with that -- but it has nothing to do with a "wide panel shirt" or anything.

Sure it does. Nobody said "wide panel" - the original said "wide stripes" and those efforts have all been money grabs.

bob jenkins Thu Jan 16, 2014 09:25am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 918602)
Sure it does. Nobody said "wide panel" - the original said "wide stripes" and those efforts have all been money grabs.

Maybe (likely) I misunderstood the OP

Raymond Thu Jan 16, 2014 09:33am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 918596)
How can they get a kickback on the wide shirt? (Unless there's more to the story -- like it also requires a logo, and they've only licensed the logo to a few vendors)

Or as in, for a very long time, there was exactly one store you could order the shirts from. And that store is in the same town as the HQ's for the state sanctioning organization. Now I've heard there is finally at least one more source from which to buy them.

And while not mandatory this season, in order to work post-season you have to wear the shirt.

BatteryPowered Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:09am

We won't be using the "wide stripe" shirts but I have been told that the chapter (association) that I will be active in once again next season will officially vote to adopt the grey shirts. Not sure if the entire state will switch of if is up to each chapter.

Doesn't really matter to me. I only have one shirt that is still wearable so I will have to buy a couple for next season anyway. Buying black and white or buying grey...makes no difference to me.

grunewar Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:02pm

As BNR and the rest of us in VA can attest, yes, we are moving to the wider stripe shirt. It was supposed to be for this yr, but supply didn't meet demand, and it was deferred until next yr (except for state playoffs as was stated). Some ordered them in Oct and they haven't arrived yet. :eek: If our entire crew has them though, and agrees, we can wear them for a regiular V game this yr though.

Initially, I don't like em......need to lose weight, ahem. :o

DRJ1960 Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:30pm

Our Association has them and we are required to wear them... one of the guys reported that, according to his wife, the shirts "look good from farther away":D..... in my opinion the farther the better....

dsqrddgd909 Thu Jan 16, 2014 02:38pm

SK14VNVA ? Short Sleeved VHSL Basketball Shirt - Cliff Keen Athletic

Wow, that look would take a while for me to get used to.

CountTheBasket Thu Jan 16, 2014 02:42pm

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Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 918663)
SK14VNVA ? Short Sleeved VHSL Basketball Shirt - Cliff Keen Athletic

Wow, that look would take a while for me to get used to.

I don't have one, and haven't even seen one other than in the pics but I actually like it. I am well aware I'm in the minority with this opinon though.

egj13 Thu Jan 16, 2014 02:57pm

Doesn't look too bad...

In this state you are required to wear a grey shirt that you can get from either Honig's or Gerry Davis...not sure the state gets kick backs or anything.

APG Thu Jan 16, 2014 03:11pm

Have worn the shirt that was shown above...personally like it better than the "thin" stripes.

JMUplayer Thu Jan 16, 2014 03:43pm

[QUOTE=dsqrddgd909;918663]SK14VNVA ? Short Sleeved VHSL Basketball Shirt - Cliff Keen Athletic

Anyone notice the price.... $49.95 LOL "Exclusive"

grunewar Thu Jan 16, 2014 05:01pm

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Originally Posted by JMUplayer
Anyone notice the price.... $49.95 LOL "Exclusive"

We got a "deal" at our clinic....and free shipping too! ;)

grunewar Fri Jan 31, 2014 02:42pm

FYI - wore my new, wide-stripe shirt for the first time this week. Surprisingly, I really liked it. Very light. Who knew? :rolleyes:

JMUplayer Fri Jan 31, 2014 04:12pm

Probably because your wallet was a LOT lighter :)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:10pm

I think they look stupid! I would prefer to wear the gray with pinstripes.

MTD, Sr.

APG Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:11pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 920777)
FYI - wore my new, wide-stripe shirt for the first time this week. Surprisingly, I really liked it. Very light. Who knew? :rolleyes:

Had a similar thought when I first wore mine.

Texas Aggie Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:01pm

Its funny. I "designed" this shirt way back in 1989 as an alternative to the shirts we used to wear -- basically the football shirt without the pocket. V-neck and everything. The link to the CK site looks pretty much exactly what I designed. Of course, it was just a drawing and I didn't show anyone, but from now on, I'm doing stuff with my ideas. Its clear I'm 25 years ahead of my time!

Mregor Sun Feb 02, 2014 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 918596)
How can they get a kickback on the wide shirt? (Unless there's more to the story -- like it also requires a logo, and they've only licensed the logo to a few vendors)

Just like you said. Our state association changed their logo this year (very minor change, if you didn't see them side by side, you wouldn't notice). Coincidently, they have a new official supplier. I'm sure the conversation went something like this: State: we need a new uniform sponsor and for $10K it could be you. Supplier: If you make everyone buy my new sublimated shirt for $67 + $10 shipping, I'll give you your sponsor fee. State: Great! if you double it, we'll change to wide stripes in '16.

Seriously, went through this with Football. New shirt with position placard dyed in. $77 in 2011 season. 2013 season went to wide stripes, another $77.

It's all about money. Specifically, separating you from it.

VACaller Mon Mar 24, 2014 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by Mregor (Post 921035)
Just like you said. Our state association changed their logo this year (very minor change, if you didn't see them side by side, you wouldn't notice). Coincidently, they have a new official supplier. I'm sure the conversation went something like this: State: we need a new uniform sponsor and for $10K it could be you. Supplier: If you make everyone buy my new sublimated shirt for $67 + $10 shipping, I'll give you your sponsor fee. State: Great! if you double it, we'll change to wide stripes in '16.

Seriously, went through this with Football. New shirt with position placard dyed in. $77 in 2011 season. 2013 season went to wide stripes, another $77.

It's all about money. Specifically, separating you from it.

I wonder if there was a meeting of State Associations and one of them said "Hey, we found a great way to make money! Take it from the officials!"

Bad Zebra Mon Mar 24, 2014 03:25pm

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Originally Posted by VACaller (Post 928640)
I wonder if there was a meeting of State Associations and one of them said "Hey, we found a great way to make money! Take it from the officials!"

Make no mistake...it's ALL about the money. In this state there are literally tens of thousands of officials for multiple sports. Dues are the first money maker...approved vendors are number two...an lest we forget corporate "sponsors" and media contracts.

JMUplayer Wed Mar 26, 2014 01:53pm

No different than "camps" to move up the ladder have inflated prices just to pad the pockets of assignors....

Multiple Sports Wed Mar 26, 2014 05:32pm

Hmmmm !!!!!!!
 
Start doing that camp math.....

75 campers @ $450 = $ 34,000 ( don't forget the $5,000 from the site camp director ) )

12 staffers each paid say $800 for the weekend..........

8 rooms for the weekend say $2,000

Pizza and soda - HEALTHY !!!!!

Ahhhh.... the camp T-Shirt !!!!


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