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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 06:20pm
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I have no problem admitting I missed or blew a call, but I will do it only 1 time per game. Any more than that and a coach will start questioning your ability...

Again we are not perfect and the players/coaches aren't either. Depending on the coach he/she may accept it and move on and you may have diffused a situation....

With regards to 'coaching' I never do that as that's not my job. I will use my voice to try and talk players out of a foul in a freshman or jv2 game just to avoid a foul fest, but rarely do I do so at the varsity level as they should know better...
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:06pm
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I'll admit to a coach that I may have missed the call, but I never come right out and say I missed it. I guess it's because I don't want to appear weak to them, as it could lead to them thinking they can get on me about future calls too. Or maybe it's because I'm stubborn, and don't want to admit a mistake.

BTW, I might add that I'll make sure I'm in the best position to see things, too.

What can they say at that point? "Make sure you do that"? LOL
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:15pm
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I'll admit to a coach that I may have missed the call, but I never come right out and say I missed it.

What can they say at that point? "Make sure you do that"? LOL
I think it's different for rules versus judgement. If I wish I had a judgement call back I'll tell the coach that if I think he needs to know. Sometimes they don't complain at all, when that happens I don't say anything cuz I don't need to.

If I kick a rule though and I know it I am more likely to admit I kicked it. I kicked a rule last year, looked up the rule at halftime. When I came back out to the floor the coach was standing there holding the rulebook. I stopped him before he said anything and told him I kicked it. He shook my hand and we moved on. And no I did not T him for standing there with the book waiting for me. Still wouldn't.
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:19pm
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I think it's different for rules versus judgement. If I wish I had a judgement call back I'll tell the coach that if I think he needs to know. Sometimes they don't complain at all, when that happens I don't say anything cuz I don't need to.

If I kick a rule though and I know it I am more likely to admit I kicked it. I kicked a rule last year, looked up the rule at halftime. When I came back out to the floor the coach was standing there holding the rulebook. I stopped him before he said anything and told him I kicked it. He shook my hand and we moved on. And no I did not T him for standing there with the book waiting for me. Still wouldn't.
Yeah, I was thinking only about judgement calls, but you're right. If I make a rule interpretation mistake, I'll let him/her know. No sense in not admitting it at that point, since they can look it up themselves. Rather be a stand-up guy that made a mistake, than a coward that made a mistake.
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:45pm
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I'll admit a mistake with the following guidelines:
  • Only happening once in a game
  • If asked about a call/no-call I was responsible for
  • Within a reasonable timeframe after the play (as in the next time I'm by that coach)
  • I will not seek out the coach or initiate a dialogue just to admit I missed something

If I kick a rule (not happening ), I hope my partners correct me before play begins.
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:52pm
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If it is purely a judgment call, I would not say "I missed the call." I might say "I did not have a great angle" or "My partner had a better look" but I do not think you should come right out and say you missed the call. That is dangerous territory and can come with other comments and other questions.

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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:21pm
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I think to go along with this you need to know your audience. Meaning, if you know a coach has a history of being a hot-head, admitting that you missed a call to them might not be a good way to keep them calm. There are ways to let a coach know that you may have misjudged or misapplied a rule without actually saying those exact words.

Also, if I were to admit to a coach that I screwed something up, I would allow myself 1 per season to that particular coach... They remember!
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2014, 07:58am
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If it is purely a judgment call, I would not say "I missed the call." I might say "I did not have a great angle" or "My partner had a better look"
How do you know your partner had a better look?
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Old Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:34pm
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If I kick a rule (not happening ), I hope my partners correct me before play begins.
This is right on point! Between 3 capable officials, there should be no blown rules!
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:02am
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I have never admitted a mistake in a basketball game. until last night. BV with less than 20 left in the game. Home team was up by 15 and subs were in for both teams. B33 drives and was fouled and I did not call it. B33 said "can I get a f***ing foul" I teed him. The coach asked what did he said and after I told him, I volunteered that I missed that initial call.
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Old Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:56pm
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I think it's different for rules versus judgement. If I wish I had a judgement call back I'll tell the coach that if I think he needs to know. Sometimes they don't complain at all, when that happens I don't say anything cuz I don't need to.

If I kick a rule though and I know it I am more likely to admit I kicked it. I kicked a rule last year, looked up the rule at halftime. When I came back out to the floor the coach was standing there holding the rulebook. I stopped him before he said anything and told him I kicked it. He shook my hand and we moved on. And no I did not T him for standing there with the book waiting for me. Still wouldn't.
Surprised he had a rule book handy.
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