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If the defender had been in position in time (he wasn't before upward motion in this case), and the offense still hits him hard enough to be a charge even if the defender is fading back, that makes it even MORE of a charge. The lean back only lessened the magnitude of the impact. |
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What about the part I edited into that post as you were responding, regarding verticality? |
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If the defender leans to the side (and there's contact), then it's a block -- so maybe you can consider that verticality -- I think of it as "outside the frame" |
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On the 3rd play....If Lead doesn't signal a block call I think C and Lead would come together and C would want a charge. He definitely had a better look.
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#1: Maybe a foul, IMO. But Calipari yelled at his player for putting himself in that position. So I will defer to the judgment of the SEC official.
#2: Nothing. This is why patient whistles are so important. I'm going to tell you exactly what an observer would have said about this play if asked: "The ball went in the basket, and the game kept on moving". Whether some folks here like it or not, I've heard enough D1 supervisors, observers, and officials talk about plays like this. The defender flopped, he is not going to get a PC call on this play. But the defender also did nothing wrong to earn a foul call against him either. To me it was incidental contact. The loose ball immediately went into the hands of A1's teammate, who puts the ball in the bucket. #3: That's an easy block call in today's NCAA-Men's. The Lead has to pick up B2's feet to ensure it's not an RA play. So when a defender moves his feet like he did right before contact, he is going to get a blocking foul against him. |
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Probably not. |
1. Textbook example of a foul causing a violation. This is a foul every time.
2. Nothing in college, I'm ok with a PC in a HS game is your area calls it tight. 3. Block because of upward motion rule. In HS, I'm ok with the PC. |
1. Foul, but I can see why it might not have been called. It looks like the player was off balance and there is a case to be made it was more about the player being off balance than pushed. But I think it is a foul.
2. Looks like a flop. 3. Block. Player slid over after the player went airborne. Peace |
#3 should have been a foul on blue before the B/C even happened. The contact on the dribbler as he tried to pass blue #1 is a point of emphasis this year.
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1. Push
2. PC 3. Hand check/arm bar foul by B1 at the start of the move, then NCAA-M block |
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