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WhistlesAndStripes Tue Jan 14, 2014 06:56pm

Simultaneous foul
 
A1 fouls B1 near the division line(pushing foul trying to go through a screen). At approximately the same time, B2 fouls A2 in the lane while A2 is in the act of shooting.

Please state your ruling and the sequence of events that follows.

Adam Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:02pm

Simultaneous foul, assuming you can't tell which happens first.

A's ball at the spot nearest where A1 was holding the ball.

A foul by a shooter's teammate causes the ball to become dead immediately.

Camron Rust Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 918387)
Simultaneous foul, assuming you can't tell which happens first.

A's ball at the spot nearest where A1 was holding the ball.

A foul by a shooter's teammate causes the ball to become dead immediately.

Only if the try had not yet been released.

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:25pm

I agree that this is a simultaneous foul. Matter of fact that's what I intend this discussion to be about. What I'm not so sure about is the enforcement. Rule 6-7-4 leaves us with a dead ball in the air, so even if the try goes through the hoop, it would not count. My real question centers around the whole point of interruption for resuming play.

Since you do have one foul committed against a player who was in the act of shooting, why wouldn't you give that player 2 shots?

And just for the sake of discussion, let's look at it two ways. One, the shooting player has released the shot is still an airborne shooter when fouled. And two, the shooting player has not yet released the ball when he is fouled in the act of shooting.

Adam Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:34pm

Simultaneous fouls do not get free throws by rule. Treat it like a double foul.

If the shot had been released, it would count and play will resume based on if the shot went in (B ball for an end line throw in) or not (Arrow).

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 918392)
Simultaneous fouls do not get free throws by rule. Treat it like a double foul.

If the shot had been released, it would count and play will resume based on if the shot went in (B ball for an end line throw in) or not (Arrow).

Cite your rule please that says simultaneous fouls don't get free throws.

Adam Tue Jan 14, 2014 07:51pm

10-6 Penalties 1d.


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