Iowa State/Baylor - Video request x2 (Clips Added)
1. About the 57 second mark in the first half. Called a block against ISU and the basket counted.
2. 15:27 mark in second half. Dunk by ISU player with a technical to follow. Thanks. |
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On the block/charge: This play is why I hate the new rule. The officials default to a block on anything close and it really punishes the defense. I think this play was a charge even under the new rules. |
I have a PC on the first play, defender was there before A1 even got the ball.
And I'm passing on the hanging on the rim T. IMHO |
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Also, I thought that the 2 remaining officials did a commendable job in the portions that I watched. I especially liked how the L moved to get an angle on post play with the ball, and then would rotate back. I did that a couple of times last night in myself. |
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#1 close but by the NCAA's new standards, he was certainly not there in time. He was still shifting to his left as the shooter was leaving the court. He only stopped moving left just after the shooter jump. It wasn't by much but it was there. This would even be a block in HS.
#2. I'm passing on that one. |
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1. NFHS that's a PC. He has obtained ILGP prior to both feet of the offensive player leaving the court. NCAA it's super close. Given the new standard and how the instruction has been to call more blocking fouls, I would lean that way. I also believe that the contact being only on the left side of the defender's torso probably unduly influences the decision as it gives the impression that the defender was late in getting to his required spot. 2. The player clearly decided to hang around an extra second with no one under him. The official enforced the rule exactly as written. Unfortunately, this is not the norm and people aren't used to seeing this call made except in extreme situations. I put the T in the "correct call" column. |
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#2. My first inclination on the hang was actually a T. However, after looking at it more closely, I decided there was enough uncertainty about it to warrant a T...not just the players underhim but the appearance of him just being wildly off balance more than showboating. |
I agree with Camron on both.
On the hang, the official might have anticipated it a bit -- when the legs went "up" the second time, it looked like the player was going to chin himself -- but I think he was still regaining his balance. Maybe the player did something before to lose the benefit of the doubt. |
Although it is never called like this but why are Dunkers consistently allowed to grasp the rim at all. In a lot of cases if the never wrap their hands around the rim and merely stuff the ball through there is no one around them. It is the momentary grasp which is always permitted which then allows the defense to get close enough that the play then needs to hang from the rim. In the above example there is no safety reason as to why he needs to grasp the rim at all and especially not bring his knees up while doing it.
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If you notice, almost all "hanging on the rim" discussions involve a 2-handed dunk, jumping off one foot. |
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When you are going at full game speed, not teaching gym class :p, your body is going in a direction (is inertia the correct term), and then both wrists hit an object that is above your head while the bottom half is still moving full speed. You don't have to believe me. Just watch the game (college/HS games) and notice the times a dunker grasps the rim, and what kind of dunk it is. |
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#2 I am in the camp that I think he was trying to make sure he didn't faceplant on the landing. He let one hand go, felt he was going to fall, so he hung on with the other a little longer to regain balance. This is my opinion based on the short clip, but if there were concerns with this player or the game prior to this that the crew felt they needed to nip any unsporting acts early, then I could see why it was called.
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The player kicks out his legs just before letting go of the rim. This looked unsporting to me at first, but now I can't tell whether it was just to keep his balance or not.
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In the clip in question not only did he never have to grasp the rim for safety but he actually knocked himself off balance by pulling his knees up in the first place. I'm not even saying they should call it different. I wouldn't care if the rule allowed them to hand up their as long as they want. However the way the rule is currently worded to say "grasp either basket at any time during the game to prevent injury" is not he way it is enforced. In most instances they never need to grasp the rim yet are allowed to. This guy seems to throw it down without grasping the rim. Of course he was the man. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/y300SqnSxtw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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