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Player shoe untied

Player shoe is untied during a live ball.Need to wait for a dead ball?

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Originally Posted by Ky ref (Post 915755)

Player shoe is untied during a live ball.Need to wait for a dead ball?

Yes, they need to wait, or tie their shoe while the ball is live. I'm not stopping the game.

Great answer coach was upset and call time out.and explain the ball is live

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Originally Posted by Ky ref (Post 915757)

Great answer coach was upset and call time out.and explain the ball is live

She can tie her shoes during the timeout.

I've had the occasional coach scream that it's a safety issue. I still don't stop play.

Baby Needs A New Pair Of Shoes ...

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 915769)

I still don't stop play.

Neither will I, but I will delay the start of play (dead ball, clock stopped, ball not about to become live).

Dead Or Alive ???

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Originally Posted by Ky ref (Post 915755)

Need to wait for a dead ball?

I'm not delaying for a shoe to be tied during the dead ball period after a made basket, even if the clock is stopped (after a successful free throw).

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Originally Posted by Ky ref (Post 915755)

Player shoe is untied during a live ball.Need to wait for a dead ball?

dead ball and a stopped clock.

If this is a high school game I will wait for a dead ball like has already been said. If this is a middle school or below game I employ a little common sense and get when I can. I have never had a coach complain about this, and these younger players are already falling all over the place for no reason as it is.:D

Go to this thread and read my post for rules justification.

Please read this thread (My post is #13.): http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...hoe-laces.html

MTD, Sr.

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Originally Posted by Ky ref (Post 915757)

Great answer coach was upset and call time out.and explain the ball is live

If the coach is upset, give him a copy of a John Wooden book and tell him to do a better job of teaching his players how to tie their shoes.

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"You know, basketball is a game that's played on a hardwood floor," Wooden said. "And to be good, you have to ... change your direction, change your pace. That's hard on your feet. Your feet are very important. And if you don't have every wrinkle out of your sock..."

Wooden paused and looked at Robert: "You washed your feet, I see."

The coach then took a black athletic sock and started to put it on Robert's foot, asking the boy to complete the task.

Wooden: "Now pull it up in the back, pull it up real good, real strong. Now run your hand around the little toe area ... make sure there are no wrinkles and then pull it back up. Check the heel area. We don't want any sign of a wrinkle about it ... The wrinkle will be sure you get blisters, and those blisters are going to make you lose playing time, and if you're good enough, your loss of playing time might get the coach fired."

To audience laughter, Wooden pulled out an athletic shoe.

"Now put it in wide, now pull it up," he told Robert. "Now don't grab these lines up here, go down, eyelet by eyelet ... each one, that's it. Now pull it in there ... Tie it like this... "

The coach teased Robert gently as he explained why this was so important.

"There's always a danger of becoming untied when you are playing," he said. "If they become untied, I may have to take you out of the game — practice, I may have to take you out. Miss practice, you're going to miss playing time and not only that, it will irritate me a little too."

The coach talked Robert through double-tying his shoelaces so they wouldn't come undone. Then he talked him through taking the shoes off by untying the strings, eyelet by eyelet.

"You gonna remember that?" Wooden asked Robert. "I hope you never get any blisters."

Like Bob said, I'll hold for a shoelace malfunction on a dead ball and stopped clock only, regardless of level. Only once have I had a coach say to me during a live ball, "Her shoe's untied. Stop the clock."

I didn't. This stunned the guy, but he was one out of hundreds that ever asked for this.

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 915795)

dead ball and a stopped clock.

So you would sound your whistle, and delay for an untied shoe, after a successful free throw (with no substitute at the table)?

Wait? One coach gets to set up his press break, and the other coach gets to set up his press, so I guess it evens out?

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 915826)

So you would sound your whistle, and delay for an untied shoe, after a successful free throw (with no substitute at the table)?

I don't presume to speak for Bob, but, no, not then.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 915826)

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 915831)

I don't presume to speak for Bob, but, no, not then.

Me neither, on both.

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 915802)

If the coach is upset, give him a copy of a John Wooden book and tell him to do a better job of teaching his players how to tie their shoes.

Great answer Thx